Time for a motor swap. My rex has come up to 267k on stock everything. I had the idea of doing a D series motor. Is this a good path to go on low budget income say around 5,000 on hands? Is there any D series setup that possibly will own b16a's? If so, would you please post your setup.

 

If you have $5K to build a motor you should look into a turbo B series. You will spend more money on making a stout D series than putting in a B series. It is your preference. You could build a D series and run some type of boost.

 

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I agree, 5k on a d, isnt the best idea. Ide go b, Screw these "I want to be diffrent guys" thats just an excuse to say I spent way to much money to go this slow.

 

when you can blow the doors off an evo (many car lengths from a rolling 1st gear, spinning tires through 1st, and 2nd) at 9psi with a sohc vtec on stock fuel system, i doubt you can call that slow. sounds like a 12 sec capable car to me.

remember, a crx weighs like nothing.

you can build a decent turbo kit with new parts for $3000. get a d15b, or d16z6, sohc vtec something for under $500, and an OBD 1 ecu with jumper harness for a bit more. fuel management is up to you, uberdata did me good. your gonna need a clutch too.

sounds like a decent cheap kit to me. at 8.8 psi my sohc made 212whp and 170tq. this was with a half assed, crappy tune. when the car hit vtec at 5000rpm, a/f leaned out to 14:1 and torque dropped stupid with hp staying flat instead of growing. you can figure out the capabilities on your own.

 

Build the "F" out of a D, and with the money you have left over invest in a good F/I setup and have fun anhailating B swapped cars.

That's just my $.02

 

D-Series ownz...Boost it.. http://www.D-Series.org

 

Werd...D series is good. It depends on your goals. I love D series cause there is always hate against in and you can find good deals on parts. I just got eagle rods with bearings for 250. B series is overated cough cough b16.....

 

Go turbo D... People are pulling some nice numbers and with less out of the pockets. Put together a homemadeturbo.com kit, save even more money for internals so you can run even more boost.

 

good idea the d16a6 is the best built block besides the dart block that holds boost. so go for it and don't listen to the dohc guys, it is worth it to get as much horse out of a sohc then dohc, hell i don't even have vtec and my car gets up. just make sure you spend the money right.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vegeta420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good idea the d16a6 is the best built block besides the dart block that holds boost. so go for it and don't listen to the dohc guys, it is worth it to get as much horse out of a sohc then dohc, hell i don't even have vtec and my car gets up. just make sure you spend the money right. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This man is crazy............04 members Nuff Said

 

http://www.turbod16.com is where you need to be to be convinced. If you go B-Series, please altleast get a 1.8!

 

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I agree, 5k on a d, isnt the best idea. Ide go b, Screw these "I want to be diffrent guys" thats just an excuse to say I spent way to much money to go this slow.</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha, that ***** funny...id say turbo ls

 

what year crx?

 

turbo the d series

 

d-series can whoop a b-series fa sho, especially a weak16

 

for single cam

 

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thats the best info ive seen someone give yet.

 

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Only if the mod list is about three times as long. I will believe in D-series superiority the day the Integra folks start tossing their B-series powertrains in favor of D-series swaps. And I don't exactly see that happening.

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If you really want to do something 'different', why not do something that is really good? How about a step up to H-series or K-series rather than a step down to D-series?

On the other hand, you could take a more conventional route. If you have $5000 on your hand, why not drop in a B18C1 (or even B18C5!) and be done with it? I have never heard anyone who swapped in a b18C say they wished they went D-series instead!

 

He is askin for a nice D series setup...yah puttin a D series in an integra isn't a great idea I think everyone knows that...This argument D vs B is never ending. The H and K, he wouldn't be able to afford it...So stop being a jerk.

 

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H-series is cheap. You can get a complete 1992-1995 JDM H22A changeover for about $2000. We're talking 200HP and 156ft-lb torque right out of the box - numbers that are pretty much impossible to duplicate with any kind of non-boosted D-series setup (and which aren't equalled by even many boosted setups!). And $5000 is actually a very decent amount of money to spend on a swap. The $3000 left over would more than pay for any installation difficulties, as well as a few mods. Why go cheap when you have that kind of cash to spend?

As for being a 'jerk', I am just trying to let him know that he can do far better than a D-series setup for $5000. This may not sound nice to all of those who think that D-series motors are God's gift to humanity. But it is true.

 

I'm agreeing with above if I had $5000 my crx would be a 2.2L DOHC VTEC monster!!!!

But I only have $2000 so turbo sohc vtec here I come...

Did I mention that I should have the same power for $3000 dollars cheaper, wait a minute maybe I take that back becuase im pretty sure that extra 3G's on the d16 is gonna make 300hp!!! my god I wish I was rich.

Time to roll another joint...

 

SOHC KICK ***

 

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^^^ people only say that when they dont have a b-series.....i drove my d-series to hell and back and i love it, but its just not fast enough for me...the b-series i am building is going to be way faster and way more fun than the d will ever be for me...you gotta remember, its still a d-series....remember what grades were good in school?
D is a bad grade....B is a much better grade

 

i say get the b16 and work it. with my setup alone i'm going to be atleast 220whp

dude for 12-1300 you could get a bseries built

providing all the parts. $450 for head (hot tanked, pressure tested, ported and polished, 4 angle valve job. assembled with your parts) $400 for block assembled and boring it to your specs. honing the block.
so 450+525+6% state tax. and him doing misc work as reinstalling it back into the car, boring out the tb 65mm, intake manifold 65mm, port matching and fixing suspension if needed. it comes out to around 1200 which isn't bad. work is going to be done on my b16.
the key is to find a shop that does this and are machinist and have there equipment. all this cane be done they said in 3-4 days.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b2o-vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^ people only say that when they dont have a b-series.....i drove my d-series to hell and back and i love it, but its just not fast enough for me...the b-series i am building is going to be way faster and way more fun than the d will ever be for me...you gotta remember, its still a d-series....remember what grades were good in school?
D is a bad grade....B is a much better grade </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree Bseries is so much stronger when i rag out on it. i was a pro D fanatic until i slipped into a B.. it's very true that your limited with a D. And come on! the tranny is so much stronger and the stock gearing on the S1s is the ******* ****.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b2o-vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">remember what grades were good in school?
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so you think F20 or Kseries is bad?? lol