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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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can someone explain or link me to an article on how to use a welding machine to block the hood cable. I REALLY want to do this so no one can get into my hood. any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 06:12 AM
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I don't think you would want to weld the cable... Try taking some sheet metal and welding a gaurd around where the cable travels so nobody can reach up and grab it
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 06:47 AM
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I know there are a few people on here who have re routed their hood release cables so that they cannot be accessed. I'm not going to get into the details in public, as I don't want to help people break into other member's cars, but feel free to PM me, and I'll try to help you out as best I can

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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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Well i have seen a couple innovative setups

one was attatching the cable to the harness that runs through the core support with zip ties and tape so it is unable to be grapped from there razor wire was wrapped around, and razor blades were also placed.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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razor blades hahaha That would suprise a theif
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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that and you can track them with DNA lol
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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PM sent clayton. instant messages on honda-tech are what u guys refer to as PM right? cause i dont see any icon that says PM just instant message.. haha my first time using it sorry
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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toolowsol.. can you explain in detail where exactly the sheet metal needs to be welded at?
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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i've got some soldered to the back of my stereo. It got stolen once... never again...
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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around the cable, It was only a suggestion, I've never really looked at where it would need to be. Just follow the cable and see where it could possably be grabbed or whatever, weld up some sheet metal so it cannot be grabbed... Very similar to the gaurds a lot of cars had a few years back so you couldn't open the door with a slimjim,
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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just run a hot lead from the battery to the cable and isolate the entire latching assembly with rubber pads to prevent a grounding since the cable itself is sheathed in plastic.

this way when the thief grabs at it with his pliers while leaning on the car he'll complete the circuit and start dancing the electric slide
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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if it had metal to metal contact it would spark and scare him half to death, that is it though
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stackz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just run a hot lead from the battery to the cable and isolate the entire latching assembly with rubber pads to prevent a grounding since the cable itself is sheathed in plastic.

this way when the thief grabs at it with his pliers while leaning on the car he'll complete the circuit and start dancing the electric slide </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha awesome!

Along the lines of welding some sheetmetal around the cable - do you think its practical to weld a piece inside the doorframe to prevent a 'slim jim' bar from popping the door latch?
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stackz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just run a hot lead from the battery to the cable and isolate the entire latching assembly with rubber pads to prevent a grounding since the cable itself is sheathed in plastic.

this way when the thief grabs at it with his pliers while leaning on the car he'll complete the circuit and start dancing the electric slide </TD></TR></TABLE>

Too bad it's DC current and wont really do anything to the theif...nice try though.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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yeah a 12v battery will hardly make you dance... it'll startle him at best... but damn i got shocked by my distributor the other day, that sucker knocked me flat on my ***.

so if you can figure out some way to remote start the vehicle when he reaches up there, maybe a motion sensor, then power it with the alternator, you can knock him on his *** too. lol.

or put a fake hood cable that really goes to a gun trigger. lol that'd suprise him when he gets a slug in his leg.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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i'm giong to run a wire to my gas tank everynight before i go to sleep and take it out every morning before i start the car. the wire will be setup so that when a thief tries to start my car itll send a current to the gas tank, igniting all the fuel, causing a giant explosion. then ill wake up and say "****, someone tried to steal my car." then, after that ill lay back down and go back to sleep knowing my car will still be there when i wake up with a dead charcoaled thief sitting in it. cool. damn, i forgot.. what if they don't even plan to steal the car and instead, plan to just take my stereo equipment.. hmm. any ideas?
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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that would be soo big that would probably kill a few ppl around driveway parking spot.... a car explosion is BIG... and there isnt a car left after one either
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrCivic03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and there isnt a car left after one either</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrCivic03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and there isnt a car left after one either</TD></TR></TABLE>

But no thief either.



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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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alright seriously... im not boobytrapping my car to kill ppl. LOTS of lawsuits will haunt me if I do so.


how plausible is it to weld a strip inside the door jam so a slim jim prybar cannot reach the latch inside?
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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let's say i was serious about the explosion thing.. how would one go about to make current run through the wire the second the key is turned to crank the engine?
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kane.s2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Too bad it's DC current and wont really do anything to the theif...nice try though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

DC current is actually worse than AC since it has no zero-crossing.

50-100V DC dosen't feel very good (can be achieved with a few components in a boost configuration), trust me on this. Its much easier to connect an AC inverter since they're so widely available - did i mention it takes less than 500mA to stop the heart?

for a theif who would never know what hit him lol!
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by noob with an RS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let's say i was serious about the explosion thing.. how would one go about to make current run through the wire the second the key is turned to crank the engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>

dude are you serious? do you WANT to have a lawsuit on your hands? Just because someone is trying to steal your car does NOT mean you can electrocute them, or kill them.

Forgive my lack of authenticity, however I once read an article about a burglar sueing the place he tried to rob for having a faulty roof. The burglar fell through the roof in attempt to steal from the storeowner, and won the lawsuit.

Ive thought of several ideas of anti theft.... one of which was a pager in which you could kill the motor once the pager was called. I ran this by a few buisness major friends im living with, as well as their professors. Both agreed this was not a smart idea. (mind you, im sure there are ways around it... i.e. 'disclaimers' on how they could die, or get shocked, or have the nuts cut off when they sit down or something) but thie is generally NOT a wise idea.

Along the lines of something you want to do... I also once read (again, question my validity if you will but I read it once from a reputable source) about a man who recieved an electric shock whilst trying to steal a car, and went deaf in one ear. As you can imagine, this man sued and got the car owner to pay far out the ******* when he thought he was the victim.

Just something to think about
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stizzit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DC current is actually worse than AC since it has no zero-crossing.

50-100V DC dosen't feel very good Its much easier to connect an AC inverter since they're so widely available - did i mention it takes less than 500mA to stop the heart?

for a theif who would never know what hit him lol!</TD></TR></TABLE>

True, also note that the skin has very high resistance, so you need a pretty good sized voltage source to get 500mA going through the body, much higher than 12. However, if you use the razor blade Idea to cut the skin and provide electric current you can get away with making his muscles spasim uncontrolably with as little as 100vDC The fun thing about that is he wont be able to let go, and will either fall of, or sufficate himself. Good painful long way to die If you have too much current it will just kill him and not let him feel and suffer
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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Search for older alarms, on the older cars people would actually have a bolt that would lock the hood. And when your turn a lever inside the car ( which is usually key operated ) the bolt would move so you can open the hood. I have actually seen this method and I can tell you it really works, the person did not know they had this and they came to me with there hood stuck, well after about 15 mins of no luck I asked him once again, are you sure there is no anti theft device in this car. Turns out there was. Back in the older days, people would do this so you could not steal there battery because a lot of the cars just had a latch that you could open from the outside.
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