I wanted to know if anyone has any HIds for there prelude and if they are any problems you guys had and what companys have real good ones.

 

the best would be to do a retrofit custom job with projectors

 

I had a few problem when I had an HID kit from misterhung.

1) It was supposed to be plug and play, but I had to do some sanding/bending to make the bulb fit and stay in place.

2) One bulb was bluish, and the other was yellowish. It might be from the chemicals not mixing in right. Or just cheap bulbs.

3) I cracked/broke both coated metal wire on the bulbs. But it still worked fine.

If you want it done right, I agree with going custom retro fitting.

 

what about for the people who like their headlights, and just want an HID bulb??

i dont want to retrofit anything into my jdm one peices.....

 

sounds like u had a dodgy kit.... how much u pay for it.. and what was the brand?

perhaps a professional installer.. may of helped..

 

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i dont want to retrofit anything into my jdm one peices.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

There's no such thing as just an HID bulb. You can get the HID looks from a bulb yes.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by [ S7H &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]sounds like u had a dodgy kit.... how much u pay for it.. and what was the brand?

perhaps a professional installer.. may of helped..</TD></TR></TABLE>

It was a misterjungs kit. The ballast was Hella/Philips. The bulbs were cheap. paid around $2-300.

Who is stupid enough to need a professional installer to install an HID kit. hahaha

 

so the HID has more to do with the actual lens than it does with the bulb?

thats news to me, thanks for the info

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so the HID has more to do with the actual lens than it does with the bulb?

thats news to me, thanks for the info </TD></TR></TABLE>

The bulb will give off one color, depending on the temp.

The projector will give you that rainbow color found on S2K's.

 

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The projector will give you that rainbow color found on S2K's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not completely true. Not all projector give off a rainbow color. With the S2K and BMWs, they will give off that purple tint, but with Maximas, Audi TT, some BMWs will give off just the blue tint

 

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Not completely true. Not all projector give off a rainbow color. With the S2K and BMWs, they will give off that purple tint, but with Maximas, Audi TT, some BMWs will give off just the blue tint</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're right. Xenons give out only one color. But I do remember a S2K behind me, and the HID kept changing colors as it bounced around.

 

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You're right. Xenons give out only one color. But I do remember a S2K behind me, and the HID kept changing colors as it bounced around.

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That has to do with the projector lens itself, and not necessarily the HID

 

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That has to do with the projector lens itself, and not necessarily the HID</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, I'm aware of that. The projector changes the colors. I just said it wrong, sorry.

 

I have a custom HID Kit installed on my One piece headlights.... i got the HID kit from a 2000 BMW M3.. i cunstom fitted the fittings to make it fit.. and it was cheap and works good...9006 converted to h4 fittin the hid kit cost me $150 ofr ballast and $30 for 2 phillips ds2 bulbs.. 4300k is the way to go!!!!

 

I just have silverstars. They work alright and look alright. But I'm happy because i got them for free.

The people with the HID's do you only have it on your lowbeams, hi/lo kit, or two seperate ones for high and low. (For 4th gens)

 

do a search for the word bixenon, that should help

 

depends on what kind of kit you get... some have them for hi/low beams... and some are just for low beams... why need hid on your high beams?? pointless....

 

You're in for some luck... I've worked extensively with HIDs.
First off, Misterhung has a 150% failure rate... in other words, I would never order from there.


There are a few factors which would vary the color output of the HID... here are some:
what ballast(s) you are using
how old the HID is (the older they get, the more bluish/white they become)
and of course, the actual bulb itself & it's designated burning temp.


Projectors do not just change the color of the light. It is like seing light through a prism, which refract little rainbows; blue & purple are the inner most colors of a rainbow. When you see that color through a projector, that means the light is being directly shot out through the center of the projector. If you ever shine somebody's HID's through a projector onto a white wall (BMW E46's, Audi's & S2k's are pretty distinct in this example) you'll see that the light is white, and that the only part that is purple or blue, is at the top (the light cut off). Now, what are the outter most colors of a rainbow? (Going back to the prism thing) Yellow/orange/red... If you ever see a bi-xenon projector shined on a white wall with the high beam on (meaning the shield in the projector is dropped,) you will notice that the cut off for the light now holds an ORANGE color. So.... The blue/purple you see is only through a small portion of the actual light output. Different lenses will give you different effects.

I have a one piece JDM headlight assembly, and I retro-fitted Audi projectors into it and used Phillips HIDs with Hella ballasts. Using this combination = Stupendous. I would NEVER buy an aftermarket HID kit--not yet at least, most companies make **** compared to what you'll find in BMW's, Mercedez, Audi's & Acuras... Yes, some aftermarket companies use Phillips bulbs or ballasts, but they still don't hold the durability & reliability of what car manufacturers use for their cars. Not to mention, shitty lights with good ballast, or good lights with a shitty ballast, usually will give you shitty results.

Anyway...

It was raining just a little bit, but I went ahead and took some snap shots. I'll get some day time shots of the projectors in the morning:






Notice the cut-off line (shows different colors,blue/purple -&gt; yellow/orange). Just the top of the light has the colored tint. That's what you see when you notice "colors changing as the car bumps up & down on the road." The purple is not as visible in the picture, however, the blue shows rather nicely.

 

Nice, you are the HID guru.

 

i just bought a pair of projector headlight for my 95 prelude, i want to have brighter light. it conver my 9006 bulb to h3 bulb. should the piaa do the work?

 

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After reading through your post... you seam like a great candidate for a write-up. Would you consider doing a how-to (get a great HID setup installed in your 5th gen )?

I would love one.

EDIT: Maybe I'm just selfish...

 

akhany:

that looks like a 4th gen to me, can you post up some pics of the retrofit inside the headlight....where did you get the audi lights?

and how much did all of that cost?

thanks

 

the projector does not change the color it is just a lense like glasses that magnify and focus the light output in a direction.

the color is determined by the burn temperature example 6000k 8000k 12000k
think of fire the lower the temperature the yellower and as teh temp rises is goes through a series of blues purples and white. The objective is to obtain the pure white light which usually has a blueish tint.

a cheap no name ballast can be the downfall of a kit, always spend that extra cash for a better ballast.

a projector is not required for a good HID setup but it does give you a little better output but MOSTLY gives you a better beam and CUTOFF

most of all if you want your lamps to last spend the money for a good kit, dont get these cheap $250 kits because you most likely will be spending another $200 to replace the the blown lamps.

 

^ I agree 100%


Yes, my car is a 4th gen (haha, my bad if you wanted to know about 5th gen)

I will get to you guys with pictures of the actual projector fitted inside, but not now... it's dark out and the pictures would suck. But soon, I promise.

I obtained all parts from http://www.ebay.com
Ok cost: (I waited patiently to get the best deals I possible could at the time)
2 Hella ballasts - 150$
2 Phillips HIDs - 60$
Audi projectors - 150$
(this is NOT an HID component, but it was part of the project) JDM one-peice headlight - 240$

So $600 including the one peice headlights or $360 for just the HID components.


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What ViZ stated is true. Think of it this way... You take all of the light that the HID throws out, and you direct all that light outward onto the road. The projector aims a lot of the light that would regularly be wasted onto the road, thus giving you a little bit better output. Also, it doesn't blind other drivers as much because the light only goes so high: it get's cut off. And if you noticed, on my garage door there is just a little bit of glare that goes upward---Perfect for lighting up road signs above you. You'll simply get that glare when the light refracts out of your housing.


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^ He is wise.

 

this is a great thread, I'm looking forward to a write up. I have been looking at HID's for my 4th gen for a while...

 

Lot of good information here. The one peice I'm unclear on is the signifigance of the JDM one piece headlight. Is this a different look to the healight itself - which is optional, or is this required to do the projector headlight conversion?

I seareched ebay quick and found only one piece healights for 4th generation preludes - mine is 5th. If this is something that is needed where can it be found?