Brake problem... makes loud noises.
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Okay a couple days ago, I pulled my car out of my garage and started driving it. The right front wheel would make a loud metal scraping sound, even without the brakes applied. The sound continued as i was driving throughout my neighborhood. I tried driving it at different speeds 5-40mph the sound was still loud. It lasted for about 2-3 minutes then it dissapears, and i haven't heard it since. This happened to me before like 2-3 months ago, but it went away so i didn't think anything of it. Do you guys think its my brake pads?
btw, I was thinking about getting a whole new brake setup. Brembo slotted rotors f/r, axxis ultimate pads, goodridge stainless lines.. what you guys think?
btw, I was thinking about getting a whole new brake setup. Brembo slotted rotors f/r, axxis ultimate pads, goodridge stainless lines.. what you guys think?
Same thing happened to me the other day and then it went away and that was it. Never came back. Pads were fine; everything looked fine.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hYpE-R-29 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like your brake pad sensor is scrapping against the rotors..Time for new pads and machined rotors
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k thanks.. i'll just get them replaced to be safe.
</TD></TR></TABLE>k thanks.. i'll just get them replaced to be safe.
Good luck solving the squealing brakes. Hopefully, it's just the wear indicater.
If you really want opinions about your new brake setup, give us some details. Is your car street driven, track or both? What effect are you looking for with the slotted rotors (performance or show)? Are your rear rotors worn down? Why the stainless lines?
If you really want opinions about your new brake setup, give us some details. Is your car street driven, track or both? What effect are you looking for with the slotted rotors (performance or show)? Are your rear rotors worn down? Why the stainless lines?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vtecfool »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw, I was thinking about getting a whole new brake setup. Brembo slotted rotors f/r, axxis ultimate pads, goodridge stainless lines.. what you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you don't race your car so why? i think with good brake fluid and maybe some agressive pads and you're good.
you don't race your car so why? i think with good brake fluid and maybe some agressive pads and you're good.
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Could it have been the rusty rotor syndrome?
Blow some compressed air on to the brake pads. Sometimes dirt and foreign objects make their way into the little brake area crevices causing these types of noises.
Good time to check for wear on the pads as well.
Blow some compressed air on to the brake pads. Sometimes dirt and foreign objects make their way into the little brake area crevices causing these types of noises.
Good time to check for wear on the pads as well.
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thanks, guys.. i do a lot of aggressive street driving. I do drag racing every now and then, but it's mostly a daily driven car. I'm going to try auto x pretty soon too, so i need a decent set of pads thats streetable and good for constant abuse.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nightrider »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even when beginning to autocross, stick to stock for now. learn to drive first.
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why not do both?
</TD></TR></TABLE>why not do both?
AutoX and "aggressive street driving." Mmmkay.
Slotted rotors will not help you brake faster. In fact, they will most likely hurt your braking performance, but not enough that you would notice it unless you track your car. Rear rotors on our cars do next to nothing, you do not need to replace yours unless they are worn down, which is highly unlikely. Goodridge stainless lines improve pedal feel but they will not help you stop any faster and can be hazardous on a daily driver.
It doesn't look like you need any of these parts. In fact, for the purposes you intend, each of these parts will be a downgrade from stock.
Slotted rotors will not help you brake faster. In fact, they will most likely hurt your braking performance, but not enough that you would notice it unless you track your car. Rear rotors on our cars do next to nothing, you do not need to replace yours unless they are worn down, which is highly unlikely. Goodridge stainless lines improve pedal feel but they will not help you stop any faster and can be hazardous on a daily driver.
It doesn't look like you need any of these parts. In fact, for the purposes you intend, each of these parts will be a downgrade from stock.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vtecfool »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw, I was thinking about getting a whole new brake setup. Brembo slotted rotors f/r, axxis ultimate pads, goodridge stainless lines.. what you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nightrider »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't race your car so why?</TD></TR></TABLE>
For the bling bling.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nightrider »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't race your car so why?</TD></TR></TABLE>
For the bling bling.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vtecfool »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay a couple days ago, I pulled my car out of my garage and started driving it. The right front wheel would make a loud metal scraping sound, even without the brakes applied. The sound continued as i was driving throughout my neighborhood. I tried driving it at different speeds 5-40mph the sound was still loud. It lasted for about 2-3 minutes then it dissapears, and i haven't heard it since. This happened to me before like 2-3 months ago, but it went away so i didn't think anything of it. Do you guys think its my brake pads?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I had a rather large pebble caught between my rotor and caliper once, did the same thing. I stopped to check it out and saw it after a minute of looking. I wouldn't worry about it.
It 'could' be a wear indicator, but that's more of a whine/screech sound, it is metal-on-metal but you probably would have known if it was that.
I had a rather large pebble caught between my rotor and caliper once, did the same thing. I stopped to check it out and saw it after a minute of looking. I wouldn't worry about it.
It 'could' be a wear indicator, but that's more of a whine/screech sound, it is metal-on-metal but you probably would have known if it was that.
One other note - if it is the wear indicator tab (because the brake pads are worn), it's quite possible that it squeals some of the time when the brakes are not depressed.
Have you checked the thickness of the pads? I'm guessing from your posts that you are mechanically inexperienced (and there's nothing wrong with that). It's easy to visually check the thickness of the top edge of the outer pad, just by looking through the spokes of the wheel without removing it. It's not as thorough as checking the entire length of both pads, but it can give you a clue (and if it's thin there, they need replacing). You can read here about how to check the pads visually and what to look for, or just ask a friend who's mechanically knowledgeable to show you. Looking at the pad thickness is basically the same on the ITR as on all cars with disc brakes, although some cars have caliper designs that don't let you see the edge of the brake pads like the ITR does.
Have you checked the thickness of the pads? I'm guessing from your posts that you are mechanically inexperienced (and there's nothing wrong with that). It's easy to visually check the thickness of the top edge of the outer pad, just by looking through the spokes of the wheel without removing it. It's not as thorough as checking the entire length of both pads, but it can give you a clue (and if it's thin there, they need replacing). You can read here about how to check the pads visually and what to look for, or just ask a friend who's mechanically knowledgeable to show you. Looking at the pad thickness is basically the same on the ITR as on all cars with disc brakes, although some cars have caliper designs that don't let you see the edge of the brake pads like the ITR does.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and say that this guy does nto even have an R...
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Nope, he posted this in the RR forum also, I punted it to Tech.
Am I wrong?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope, he posted this in the RR forum also, I punted it to Tech.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and say that this guy does nto even have an R...
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Nope, i have a gsr.. i just thought i'd get more feedback from type r drivers since they have more experience with brakes.
btw, thanks for the info nsxtasy
Am I wrong?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope, i have a gsr.. i just thought i'd get more feedback from type r drivers since they have more experience with brakes.
btw, thanks for the info nsxtasy
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I had a rather large pebble caught between my rotor and caliper once, did the same thing. I stopped to check it out and saw it after a minute of looking. I wouldn't worry about it.
It 'could' be a wear indicator, but that's more of a whine/screech sound, it is metal-on-metal but you probably would have known if it was that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep me too. i'd put all my money on a pebble. same thing happened to me, even when not on the brakes it was deafening loud scaring pedestrians
I had a rather large pebble caught between my rotor and caliper once, did the same thing. I stopped to check it out and saw it after a minute of looking. I wouldn't worry about it.
It 'could' be a wear indicator, but that's more of a whine/screech sound, it is metal-on-metal but you probably would have known if it was that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep me too. i'd put all my money on a pebble. same thing happened to me, even when not on the brakes it was deafening loud scaring pedestrians
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nightrider »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even when beginning to autocross, stick to stock for now. learn to drive first.
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Even for daily driving, stock pads suck *** in so many different ways. The only thing they're good for is making less dust than a aftermarket pad.
I personally refuse to use stock pads on any car if there is an alternative available. Before I even picked up my AP1 from the dealership, a set of Axxis Ultimates was already purchased and in route.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Even for daily driving, stock pads suck *** in so many different ways. The only thing they're good for is making less dust than a aftermarket pad.
I personally refuse to use stock pads on any car if there is an alternative available. Before I even picked up my AP1 from the dealership, a set of Axxis Ultimates was already purchased and in route.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Even for daily driving, stock pads suck *** in so many different ways. The only thing they're good for is making less dust than a aftermarket pad.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What? They don't suck ***. Sure, there's better pads out there, but they certainly do the job for daily driving and autocross.
What? They don't suck ***. Sure, there's better pads out there, but they certainly do the job for daily driving and autocross.
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What? They don't suck ***. Sure, there's better pads out there, but they certainly do the job for daily driving and autocross.
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my thoughts exactly. my R was mostly daily driven with a couple autocross events and they did fine. i'm not saying they're the greatest, but the R's brake setup is better than most oem units.
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why not do both?
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unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. i learned the hard way, but once you get performance parts to drive better and you don't know how to handle it, you lose control. oem brakes are fine for a while as a beginning autocrosser.
What? They don't suck ***. Sure, there's better pads out there, but they certainly do the job for daily driving and autocross.
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my thoughts exactly. my R was mostly daily driven with a couple autocross events and they did fine. i'm not saying they're the greatest, but the R's brake setup is better than most oem units.
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why not do both?
</TD></TR></TABLE>unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. i learned the hard way, but once you get performance parts to drive better and you don't know how to handle it, you lose control. oem brakes are fine for a while as a beginning autocrosser.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally refuse to use stock pads on any car if there is an alternative available.</TD></TR></TABLE>
*shrug*
I use stock pads on any street car or for street use if I can. They dont dust much, they wear better, they dont make noise, they're cheaper...... they still stop the damn car fine, you're tire limited in braking.
*shrug*
I use stock pads on any street car or for street use if I can. They dont dust much, they wear better, they dont make noise, they're cheaper...... they still stop the damn car fine, you're tire limited in braking.
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you're tire limited in braking.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so true. btw, nightrider > .RJ in posts.
wtf happened?
you're tire limited in braking.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so true. btw, nightrider > .RJ in posts.
wtf happened?



