88 LCAs same as Type R? Please help!
I'm sorry this may seem like a real dumb question but I purchased an Apexi N1 suspension and when I bought them I was told the lower control arms in the rear were from an 88 CRX. He also proceeded to tell me that those LCA's are the same that are on the type r. My Sol had the traditional fork style in the rear. We bolted them up and everything was cool till I blew one of them. I went to replace the suspension with Tokico blues and realized now that I had CRX rears with EG front forks and that I would have to mix and match parts in order to get me back on the road. BTW, he also mentioned that these same coilovers were meant for the R not a CRX, he just used the LCAs from the CRX, cause they are the same. Is this true?
Now i've found myself looking for front CRX forks in order to get the rest of the Tokico shocks to fit in. I've sent the N1's out to get rebuilt from Apexi. The CRX LCA look a lot like the Type r ones and was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me. I thank you in advnce for your help.
And sould I have just bought Tokico's blues for an R instead of changing my suspension to that of a crx? If the two LCAs are indeed the same, would'nt I have been able to just do the R setup?
I'm sorry I also posted this in the R forum as well.
Now i've found myself looking for front CRX forks in order to get the rest of the Tokico shocks to fit in. I've sent the N1's out to get rebuilt from Apexi. The CRX LCA look a lot like the Type r ones and was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me. I thank you in advnce for your help.
And sould I have just bought Tokico's blues for an R instead of changing my suspension to that of a crx? If the two LCAs are indeed the same, would'nt I have been able to just do the R setup?
I'm sorry I also posted this in the R forum as well.
Okay, sounds like your CRX was fitted with Apexi N1 coilovers for ITR or JDM EG. Well, what did was run the EG/DC front forks and '88 CRX rear lower control arm (LCA).
So now that you want to go with the CRX front struts, you'll need EF front forks. As for the rear, you could have just got struts for a '88 CRX. But if you already got the 89-91 rear struts, just get the 89-91 LCA.
Don't get the ITR Tokico Blues. Tokicos aren't shorten struts, and they are just as tall as the OE ITR struts, which means it is longer than CRX ones. In fact, don't get Tokico Blues at all
So now that you want to go with the CRX front struts, you'll need EF front forks. As for the rear, you could have just got struts for a '88 CRX. But if you already got the 89-91 rear struts, just get the 89-91 LCA.
Don't get the ITR Tokico Blues. Tokicos aren't shorten struts, and they are just as tall as the OE ITR struts, which means it is longer than CRX ones. In fact, don't get Tokico Blues at all
Sorry I was'nt more specific, I own a 96 Del Sol. My question is, are the LCAs the same as the type r one. I had the traditional LCAs where the rears had a fork style that went over the LCA. With the new setup I got, it has the eyebolt that drops into the LCA, and the bolt passes through it. Could I in reality just drop in aftermarket shocks that are meant for an Integra? The main question is, do the 88 CRX have the same LCA's as the Type r?
Short answer: Yes, the '88 CRX used the same kind of LCA as the Type R.
Longer answer: It was only changed in the US (and maybe Canada); the rest of the world kept it throughout the 2G CRX's model run, and its design and basic details stayed on for the Integra Type R. The reason it was hastily redesigned for the US market is because, in general, American drivers are stupid. The LCA's design allowed for some flex in the LCA, which caused it to toe out under load (the outside rear wheel in a turn would turn just a bit due to the flex in the LCA, which resulted in a kind of "passive rear steering"). As a result, the '88 CRX is more likely to rotate if you lift off the throttle while in a turn (commonly known as "lift-throttle oversteer"). It made the cars more nimble, but in the hands of untrained American drivers, it made them "dangerous".
Of course I, being a stupid American driver, was caught by surprise the first time I discovered this feature in my '88 CRX Si. I was humming along a frontage road, in the right-most lane, when a doofus in a LandCrusher pulled out in front of me. It caught me off guard because I was *really* close to him when he did it, I had my headlights on (daytime), and I'd JUST MADE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM!
Anyway, he pulls out, I reflexively get off the gas while I make an emergency lane change, and the car starts fishtailing. It went back and forth a few times before I reminded myself to just get back into the throttle to calm everything down. Then I drove straight home and changed my underwear!
So, if you have the '88-style (boxed) rear LCAs, you should probably be looking at ITR or '88 CRX rear struts.
Hope this helped clear a few things up for you,
Mike
Longer answer: It was only changed in the US (and maybe Canada); the rest of the world kept it throughout the 2G CRX's model run, and its design and basic details stayed on for the Integra Type R. The reason it was hastily redesigned for the US market is because, in general, American drivers are stupid. The LCA's design allowed for some flex in the LCA, which caused it to toe out under load (the outside rear wheel in a turn would turn just a bit due to the flex in the LCA, which resulted in a kind of "passive rear steering"). As a result, the '88 CRX is more likely to rotate if you lift off the throttle while in a turn (commonly known as "lift-throttle oversteer"). It made the cars more nimble, but in the hands of untrained American drivers, it made them "dangerous".
Of course I, being a stupid American driver, was caught by surprise the first time I discovered this feature in my '88 CRX Si. I was humming along a frontage road, in the right-most lane, when a doofus in a LandCrusher pulled out in front of me. It caught me off guard because I was *really* close to him when he did it, I had my headlights on (daytime), and I'd JUST MADE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM!
Anyway, he pulls out, I reflexively get off the gas while I make an emergency lane change, and the car starts fishtailing. It went back and forth a few times before I reminded myself to just get back into the throttle to calm everything down. Then I drove straight home and changed my underwear!

So, if you have the '88-style (boxed) rear LCAs, you should probably be looking at ITR or '88 CRX rear struts.
Hope this helped clear a few things up for you,
Mike
88 CRX and ITR = eyelet style.
EG (including Del Sol) = fork style.
If you were running fork style before, than NO, you didn't have the 88 CRX/ITR style. If you are now, then you do.
Either way, if the Tokico blues that you bought are for a CRX it's okay. Just a bit shorter than the Del Sol ones you should have bought.
does that clear it up?
EG (including Del Sol) = fork style.
If you were running fork style before, than NO, you didn't have the 88 CRX/ITR style. If you are now, then you do.
Either way, if the Tokico blues that you bought are for a CRX it's okay. Just a bit shorter than the Del Sol ones you should have bought.
does that clear it up?
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