The Carbon Canister and the Vacuum thingy...do I need those? (I live in Florida, no emissions tests!)
I'm doing a D16Z6 swap and as you can see, the only left in the engine bay is the D15B1 block. Thats coming out tomorrow and the D16Z6 along with 4th gen Si tranny are going in tomorrow .
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Without the diagram in front of me, I think that vaccuum "thingy" partially helps (i believe) in the control of the fuel pressure regulator... so if you take that out you'll run more rich and possibly foul up your plugs and dirty up everything. Generally it's not a good idea unless you're running particularly lean.

as for the charcoal canister I know people skip it a lot when they do swaps, but keep in mind these engines are designed to have those regulators in tact for normal operation... so unless you're boosting or doing something else where you'd need massive amounts of fuel or air, I'd say leave them in. The gain you get from taking them out with a stock engine isn't very big or even existant.


Modified by eumoria at 7:53 PM 12/22/2004

 

the charcol canister is so you dont have any unburnt fuel vapors go into the atmosphere...a lot of people in the auto-x forum take it out it seems...

 

Trash it.
I dont have any emmision stuff in my crx.
Some people will say it causes problems but they are idiots, I have no problems and no checkengine lights.

 

Remove it because it is only for emissions purposes as was stated before.

 

after removing the canister do you just plug all the holes that originallly ran to it? Like on top of the TB and the pcv on the firewall?

 

yes cap the vaccume lines on the tb or get a newer one like I did with a built in map and you can remove the firewall map/evap permently.

 

So... <U>take out</U> the charcoal canister and <U>leave</U> the vacuum thingy?

Or remove both?


Modified by Mach69 at 9:54 PM 12/22/2004

 

The black tall canister is your charcoal canister, remove it.
The map on the top of the firewall with the 2 clear plugs keep unless you get a newer TB with built in map.

 

If you remove the map on the wall by using a newer tb you will NOT use the evap plug and it DOES NOT need to be conected to anything.

 

what if you are using a d16y8 head for a mini me swap? using that throttle body, can you get rid of it all then?

 

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yes then it can all go like mine is.

 

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No need to be a douchebag. We pulled it off my brother's b16 because it was leaning out the fpr. So taking it off does have some side affects. It's looking for a certain vacuum pressure that's no longer going to be there from that valve. It doesn't hurt anything to take it off, but generally taking it off doesn't help much on a stock D16Z6. That's all I'm saying.

If you're running a much bigger engine then was intented for that emissions part (i.e. KidHonda's b-series) or you buy an aftermarket IM or something it'd be stupid to leave it on. But generally for stock IM, cam, timing, exhaust, etc you're not going to notice a difference without it. It'll look cleaner, however... so the choice is yours. Either way it won't matter.

 

Chill man I wasnt trying to be a *** to anybody I was refering to the guys that always say BS when they havent done it themselves, I wasnt even talking about anybody in this post or anybody in general I was just saying since most people try and say all the problems removing this stuff will cause when they have not done it themselves nor do they even know what the parts they are talking about do.
No anger ment

 

heh it's all good... you do have absolutely the cleanest engine bay ever

you should relocate it to the rear, the only thing cluttering it up now is the engine itself.

Either that or relocate the brake booster. (if either were feesable) Do you have a post on what you did to move all the electrical and what-nots?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eumoria &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... you do have absolutely the cleanest engine bay ever

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Kid-Honda. You should do a write up on how you got your bay/firewall so clean. This is something I like to do this winter. Any pointers would be very helpfull.

 

Can this charcoal cannister and the other thingy be taken off my 89 civic dx if i live in NY? Or do i need it for the test we have, which i have no clue about. Oh ya my engine is a d15b2, but hopefully swap it with something..

 

I took mine out because it was never even plugged in. 99-00 civic si throttle body I put on my intake manifold didnt have the vacume port to plug it in, so I trashed it. No CEL here..

 

I dont mean to hijack your post by any means..but was interested because ive been looking at those ugly things for awhile..So anyone know if i can take them out with a d15b2 engine and living in NY?

 

again not trying to thread jack but on a b16 there is red hose going from under nieth the canister,what does it plug into? i live in california and need to get ber certified? mine is cut and i can find any were for it to go?

 

Anyone??? Please...

 

no cuz you will probably fail emissions. I didnt have them on my DA or my DSM but if you know somebody who will pass you, then take it out. Weight reduction y0!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kid-honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Trash it.
I dont have any emmision stuff in my crx.
Some people will say it causes problems but they are idiots, I have no problems and no checkengine lights.

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HOW IN THE HELL DID YOU GET IT...SO FRESH AND SO CLEAN CLEAN

damn that looks good, I can not stop trying find something wrong. It looks to good to be true.

 

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if you have emissions then probalby not, if you are upstate, where they dont even pop your hood, then yes...

 

if they don't pop your hood during emissions then you can take it off right?