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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Which Brake kit would anyone suggest cuz im lookin into it and i dont know if i want Mugen/Spoon please post pics?
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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What are your goals with the car? Search and figure out what product hold the most benifits for you. Chances are you can save yourself a grand by just getting better pads.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Autozone/Cobalt kit would be my suggestion
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Stock ITR brakes are pretty awesome (just get racing pads and disposable OEM or Autozone rotors). NSX or Legend calipers are a cheap-ish upgrade.

If you're just looking for pics, maybe the Appearance forum is for you.

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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris93Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Autozone/Cobalt kit would be my suggestion </TD></TR></TABLE>

tis the way the to go and tis the season to take advantage of discounts from Andie.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Bembo blanks with hawk race pads!
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by John EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bembo blanks with hawk race pads! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Autozone Rotors &gt; Brembo Blanks
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tanabedc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which Brake kit would anyone suggest cuz im lookin into it and i dont know if i want Mugen/Spoon please post pics?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Type R is tire limited not brake limited - so unless you are getting fade at the track after multiple high speed braking episodes - there is absolutely no need to improve the braking system - you're better off spending money on better tires that provide more grip.

The Spoon brakes are lighter and are multi-piston - which will improve modulation and decrease unsprung weight a bit. But you use stock sized rotors - which means your available heat sink is the same - so fade resistance will not improve.

The Mugen system uses larger rotors and S2000 calipers. Generally speaking the larger rotors will provide better fade resistance and the bigger calipers will give you better modulation --- but the price of the system is $$$$$ for gains that can be had with better pads and tires on the stock R brakes. You also need 16" rims to clear the calipers - so you won't be able to use the stock R rims anymore.

So - in conclusion - you are much better off upgrading the pads to a better quality variety and using cheap Autozone rotors and saving your money for high quality rubber.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Autozone Rotors &gt; Brembo Blanks</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes so true. They are basically the same. You &gt; Me.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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IMO, spoon/mugen brakes aren't worth it. 5.1 brake fluid, agressive front pads, and you're good to go.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by John EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bembo blanks with hawk race pads! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Which hawk pads?

Because the blues are horrible with evil sticky dust. And don't mention if you get the dust wet. It'll never come off.

But on the positive side the blues stopped the car very nicely.

The Cobalts are just more user friendly with better feel for modulation imo.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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It's all preference. I personally like the HP Plus.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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HP Plus disintegrate on my car. I can crumble them in one track day.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Some links on different pads:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=613251
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=555927

Alot of people on here runs these:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1084257
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=608745


Once again, it's all preference.


Modified by John EK at 5:48 PM 12/21/2004
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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I agree w/ everyone.
If $$ is no object then go ahead w/ the brake kit. Otherwise get aggressive pads. I got Cobalt VRs, and they made an unbeleivable difference, w/ no fading all day long on the track. I admit, brake kits look awesome, but I would spend the extra money on track time before buying brake kit.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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cuz right now im running Project Mu Brake pads and it keeps makin noise
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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good point
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tanabedc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cuz right now im running Project Mu Brake pads and it keeps makin noise </TD></TR></TABLE>

High performance pads make noise period. If that bothers you - then high performance brakes are not for you. You should switch back to OEM pads.

BPR - who thinks squeeky brakes are the schizz
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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if it was mugen vs spoon.. i'd go with spoon

but i'd get ap racing or someshi
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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i wouldnt mind getting the mugen kit, but i do like the spoon calipers being lightweight and all.but i agree w/ bpr and what everyone else says...id rather have some hawk blues w/some brembo rotors and some good fluid..to each his own
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BPR - who thinks squeeky brakes are the schizz</TD></TR></TABLE>

my xp8's do not squeek on the street Panther+ and XP9's make plenty
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tanabedc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cuz right now im running Project Mu Brake pads and it keeps makin noise </TD></TR></TABLE>

True, I say just stick with the brakes u got now and maybe upgrade the brake fluid. The Project MU brakes are fine for the type of driving we do......Besides, ITR brakes are the shizzz!!

ITR brakes=
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Stock ITR Calipers (2): $0
Endless Super Street Sport pads (F&R) : $300
Resurface ITR Rotors (4): $40
Motul RBF600 (2 bottles) : $15

Improved braking performance: priceless
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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I did not see what you want the brakes for,, Intended use...

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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THEINTEGRATION &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Endless Super Street Sport pads (F&R) : $300</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ricer junk.

I like things that are easy to get service/support on and I dont need to wait for them on a slow boat from Japan.... i.e. carbotech, koni, etc...
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