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I think it's time I experience the rice side. People laugh, but n2o is a very potent weapon in racing. Some call it cheating, I call it a cheap mans turbo. And since I'm curious about it, I want to play with it for myself.

I've never been one for reading magazines and spouting off facts...

 

question. is it ok to run both turbo and NOS as long as your car is built right? or should i not even think about it...just wondering.

 

If you're built right run both or just spray the nitrous onto the intercooler. No extra fuel tuning and unlimited cold air. JG welcome to the darkside. Beware it's addictive.

 

you mean the "backside?" hehe jk

 

Hehe, bastard, that's how the girls like it. More leverage that way.

 

as long as they have a nice pony tail to grab on to or just nice long hair...mmmm

 

ok... we're not going O-T in this one!!!!!!!

Anyone have any kits they can reccomend?

 

NOS part # 05030-FI-(A,B, or C) This is the one I am going with. C is the show kit and A and B are the basic ones. This kit will give you the 150 direct port shot you were thinking of. The minimum is a 75 shot.

 

The NOS one is nice. If I was going with Nitrous I'd either get that or do a custom port.

You'll need to retard ignition somehow. Nitrous speeds up combustion alot. It's a little harder on the engine because of it, but it's not like you're squeezing all the time.

Definitely let us know how it goes as you figure it all out and get some results.

 

nitrous can be used with turbo. although i wouldn't trust it at high rpm's. even if the motor is built, running both is not very safe. i'd just use nitrous during turbo lag.

 

The easiest way to use nitrous on a turbo is to spray it on the intercooler to substantially cool your intake charge.

 

JG: The blue bottle cried out for me too. I just got my direct port sports fogger kit today and I'm getting it installed later on this month. Ive done the supercharging route on my integra and now that I'm broke and curious I decided nitrous was the way to go. I'm still looking into what I should do to prepare my fuel system for the 75 shot system.

Laughin: Any advice?

 

Big fuel pump and a fuel pressure regulator.

Also, Laughin pointed out a sweet little device from Jacobs that will save you if youdrop off on fuel pressure and a few other things.

 

when you say "spray onto the intercooler" do you mean the outside of the intercooler??? nitrous is a little expensive to be doing that...

 

tryin not to flame but....anything 80-100shot wet direct port will be equal if not better than most turbocharged out there on the 1/4mile and definitely faster racing light to light


[Modified by redteg1, 2:37 AM 1/7/2002]


[Modified by redteg1, 2:41 AM 1/7/2002]

 

I'm pretty sure he was talking about drilling a hole into the i/c pipe and mounting the N2O nozzle there to spray into the intercooler and cool off the intake further than the i/c would alone.

 

while we're on this topic... how would a 25 shot do as a way to cool an unintercoolable sc setup? not interested in the power so much as the cooling. if it were always triggered during boost, would the bottle run dry pretty fast with such a small shot?

 

Man, just leave the damn car alone!! Buy a JDM motor, leave it alone, and have fun on the tracks.. Punkass

 

Sorry I was visiting my cousin in Mailwaukee for the weekend and keeping Miller in buisness. So here we go:
1. For a 75 shot you do not need a fuel pump, but an fpr is nice to have, For an 80 shot you need a fuel pump just to make sure you're being safe.
2. I meant spraying nitrous onto the intercooler, so it would be like driving your turbo'd lude when it's below freezing outside. Spraying nitrous into the intake charge is nice too, but then you have to adjust your fuel tuning for the nitrous.
3. You can run a 25 shot of nitrous and a jackson racing supercharger, but you can only spray for 15 seconds at a time (and you should wait about 15 minutes between spraying) so an intercooled setup would be better for autocrossing or higway runs.


[Modified by laughin2.2, 11:06 PM 1/7/2002]

 

JG since you got the internals already NOS is a nice set up cause its a direct port from a single button that engages it. but ZEX on the other hand is what alot of my friends use., its a little safer because it has an arming switch when you can engage it plus it only works when you are on OPEN THROTTLE ONLY!! plus you can dearm and rearm when you want. all i got to say is when i ran agaisnt my friend with a stock 4 door 98 civic with a b16 swap built up that ran 14.7 all motor, when he sprayed in 3rd gear he pulled past me like i was sitting there. i was liek **** !!!!! get ZEX , it all comes down to what you perfer. plus zex is a little safer to. pLUS he shot 75 SHOT INTO HIS INTAKE MANIFOLD DIRECTLY. its not much of a difference when you do that versus into the intake itself just gets there a little quicker. OR you can go with a wet system setup...........youll notice even more fun....... but beware you might need a rebuild in the future real soon after that for a daily driver

 

NOS also has an arming switch and can be wired to activate at WOT.
How's it safer?
He sprayed a dry kit directly into his intake manifold?
And why would he need a rebuild if he ran a direct port kit?

 

Is the direct port fogger system safer? Is that why you can run higher amounts than on other conventional kits? Looking into this myself, and very curious.

 

A direct port kit and a dry kit are equally safe when used in the right applications. Dry kits are for 50-75 shot. Period. Direct port kits are for 75+ shot applications. Again period. You can run a higher shot with a direct port kit b/c each cylinder gets the same amount of nitrous and fuel from the nitrous kit. Dry kits spray nitrous into the intake and then rely on the intake manifold to distribute the nitrous. The problem with this is that the intake manifold is biased towards the 3rd cylinder, so when you spray above a 75 shot the extra nitrous that the 3rd cylinder gets really starts to make a difference and starts to overstress the engine.

 

Ok, thats what I thought. I am still not sure which kit I will run, but have been looking at the plate kit developed for the Prelude and one of acura's cars. It ranges from 75-200 shots, no more than 75 recommended for stock. This kit really intrigues me, and looks like it may be the kit I am looking for. Ow well, I guess I will have to continue cearch out info on the kit.

 

They haven't put that kit out yet to the best of my knowledge. The kit that I'm interested in is the one that goes between the fuel injectors and the intake manifold(75-150 shot). If I could get my hands on that you'd be seeing one scary sleeper.