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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Default Questions about solo II stock class rules. Need someone knowledgeable

I have a 2000 Civic Dx hatch, I will list my item specific questions under the stated rule in question.


As a rough guide, if your car has modifications beyond this list it is not eligible for Stock Category:

Anything available on the exact model and year of your car as standard or optional equipment, as installed on the factory assembly line (nothing available only dealer-installed is allowed), plus
Standard OEM identical replacement parts

Can I run Stock Civic SI front and rear sway bars? Rear disc Brake conversion?

Any wheel of diameter and width identical to a stock or factory optional wheel, offset within +- 0.25 inch

16" SI wheels?

Any shock absorber of the same type and mounting as original; no change to standard spring mountings is allowed; suspension geometry may not be altered; gas or hydraulic shocks are permitted

So I must leave stock springs, but I could replace with Koni Yellows? How about replacement Upper control arms and rear upper links with Camber adjust capabilitys?

Any brake linings; pre-1992 cars may use solid/braided metal brake lines.

I can run braided lines?


Any front anti-roll bar (no change to stock/optional rear anti-roll bar, if present)

Once again, some hatches came with factory front, but can I add SI front and rear?

Manufacturer specified ignition settings only

No MSD wires or Ignition booster?

Any replacement air filter element (or removal of air filter element); no plumbing changes.

So no Cold air, but drop in K&N?


Replacement of any part of the exhaust system past the catalytic converter (if quiet)

I already have Brullen 2.25" cat-back, not unreasonably loud.


Any oil filter

Oil Cooler? Filter re-locator?

Added clutch scattershield

Can I put in an aftermarket flywheel and or Clutch?


Thanks for replys.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nyceguy17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 2000 Civic Dx hatch, I will list my item specific questions under the stated rule in question.</TD></TR></TABLE>


These are the answers as I understand them:

Can I run Stock Civic SI front and rear sway bars? Rear disc Brake conversion?

No on the rear, only Civic Dx stuff allowed. You could use the Si front bar, if you wanted to. Can't change the brakes at all, except for the pads & shoes.


16" SI wheels?

Nope, gotta use the stock 14" wheels.


So I must leave stock springs, but I could replace with Koni Yellows? How about replacement Upper control arms and rear upper links with Camber adjust capabilitys?

Any shocks allowed, none of that other stuff is allowed.


I can run braided lines?

Nope, only 92 or earlier as in the rule.


Once again, some hatches came with factory front, but can I add SI front and rear?

The relevant question is did the Civic Dx come with them. Different trim levels are treated as different cars.


No MSD wires or Ignition booster?

Wires can be any set of wires OEM or Aftermarket, but no ignition booster (I think, not sure what you mean here).


So no Cold air, but drop in K&N?

Exactly.


I already have Brullen 2.25" cat-back, not unreasonably loud.

That's perfectly legal.


Oil Cooler? Filter re-locator?

Defintely not.


Can I put in an aftermarket flywheel and or Clutch?

Yes, provided they are the same as OEM in specification. Can't be an improvement on stock, though.

Anyone can feel free to point out where I am wrong.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Questions about solo II stock class rules. Need someone knowledgeable (Nyceguy17)

No for all j00r questions except drop in air filter, koni yellow shocks, a different front sway bar, and ignition wires.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Questions about solo II stock class rules. Need someone knowledgeable (MattP)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MattP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oil Cooler? Filter re-locator?

Defintely not.
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Obviously for an AutoX, neither of these have any performance merit, and will only be added weight.

I seriously doubt an oil filter relocator will be protested at the local level. It's very likely illegal... but I've never seen/run across it before. It's sorta like "speed bleeders", just a maintenance helper.

The oil filter relocation kit might be allowed as a "replacement oil filter", performing exactly the same function with no performance benefit. Of course I could be off base.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Questions about solo II stock class rules. Need someone knowledgeable (Chris F)

What 16" 4x100 Si wheels exist? If you have a 5-lug swap, then you definitely can't run in stock class
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EtherGhost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What 16" 4x100 Si wheels exist?</TD></TR></TABLE>
None.

The only OEM Honda 4x100mm wheels I know of in 16" are the 7th-gen Civic Factory Performance package wheels.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EtherGhost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What 16" 4x100 Si wheels exist? If you have a 5-lug swap, then you definitely can't run in stock class</TD></TR></TABLE>


DOH! They're 15's!! Sorry.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nyceguy17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bump</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why are you bumping the thread? All your questions have been answered.

Let me introduce you to the most important rule in autocross, rule 13.1

"If a modification is not specifically authorized in this or previous sections of these Rules it is not allowed. It is not permitted it use illegal parts even if they are set to stock specifications"


To paraphrase:

If it doesn't say you can, then you can NOT

EDIT: Why do I bother? My head hurts....

EDIT #2: Do most people undertand why Stock class rules allow the modifications that they do? I'm not talking from a performance standpoint, but from a historical standpoint. I do, but I want to know if anybody else does. HINT: Think 'midas'
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Questions about solo II stock class rules. Need someone knowledgeable (Nyceguy17)

just learn to drive your car.....gezzz....it isn't like you'll be compitive anyways...
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