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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Aight HTs I have a SR AEM Intake on my H22 and sittin my my backseat is a 15 foot long header wrap which I now refuse to put on my headers because wrap distroys headers soooooo why not wrap the intake to keep the piping from getting hot. What do u guys think?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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I may be wrong but I'm under the impression that header wrap keeps heat in? so by wrapping your intake in it, it will retain heat instead of insulate it from heat?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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so how is header wrap different from intake reflective wrap then? i just thought that the air in the intake is cooler then the air outside so it would keep the heat out. so based on what u said i should flip the header wrap inside out lol.

Let me refraze the question, does header wrap absorb heat like will the wrap become just as hot as the intake piping would be and make the piping hot too, cus if it does then its pointless to put it on the intake.


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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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it's the same stuff. It will keep heat in OR keep heat out, just like the insulation in your house. The only difference is that some "intake" insulation tape comes with reflective foil on one side to help reflect heat from radiation.

Rap that sucker with your header tape. You can always put reflective tape over it if you real get **** about it.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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won't really help all that much in the end, since the air is moving and doesn't have a lot of time to absorb much heat.

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Very true, but in nuetral or when ur foot is off the gas the air is barely movin and when u stop on it all that hot air is goin in the engine. I dont expect any noticable difference its just the piece of mind that the wrap is actually doin sumtin besides sit in the backseat. as long as wrapin the intake isnt goin to make the situation worse.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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It will keep heat out. But as said, you will gain VERY little power from wrapping your intake.

Just be a man and wrap your header; wrap doesn't kill headers.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Wrap only kills ceramic coated headers.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeyKrus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Just be a man and wrap your header; wrap doesn't kill headers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you sure about that? even on mild steel? i heard it keeps moisture in , hence rusting / cracking faster
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:20 AM
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I figure it doesnt matter what the metal is all that heat it gonna age the **** outta the headers until the only thing holding them together is the header wrap itself. It makes sense plus i read it on a nascar website and thats why stockcars dont wrap their headers cus they would literally have to replace them every race.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by es_squared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you sure about that? even on mild steel? i heard it keeps moisture in , hence rusting / cracking faster</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll answer your question with a question:

Are you serious about making horsepower?
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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first off, i wouldnt trust anything i read on a nascar site, neither would i read anything on a nascar site, or even go on one.....

they drive in a big circle, the end....

no breakthroughs in technology there, just entertainment for a bunch of drunk rednecks who like hearing cars roar by.....

either way, they are right, wrap only is bad for ceramic headers...

on the mild steel thing, everything is bad for them, they get a drop of water and rust......you should be more concerned with getting a coating than wrapping if you have a mild header......

this is comparable to the effectiveness of the hondata intake mani gasket, different application, but same idea, and roughly same power gain....

both will make the intake cooler at some part, but not a huge deal since the air is gone quick.....

the engine could give a **** less if it was breathing 8000 degree air when its at idle dude, the only benefit of cooler air is more hp, it wont make your engine last longer or anything.....

the reason they wrap headers is because they are already gonna be really hot and they want to keep the heat in and not into the engine.....it has nothing to do with the air, which is moving just as fast as when it came in.....
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first off, i wouldnt trust anything i read on a nascar site, neither would i read anything on a nascar site, or even go on one.....

they drive in a big circle, the end....

no breakthroughs in technology there, just entertainment for a bunch of drunk rednecks who like hearing cars roar by.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't say such ignorant crap like that.
Those cars all run at top speed, top rpms, where making the smallest adjustment can mean 1st or last place.
If you can't appreciate the engineering behind that, well...
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ryanstev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Don't say such ignorant crap like that.
Those cars all run at top speed, top rpms, where making the smallest adjustment can mean 1st or last place.
If you can't appreciate the engineering behind that, well...</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya it does take alot of planning , but what he was saying is that its borring to watch hardcore .
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by es_squared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya it does take alot of planning , but what he was saying is that its borring to watch hardcore . </TD></TR></TABLE>

It may be boring to watch, but he said don't listen to their technological advice.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Dude they run single cam iron blocked pushrod engines. What technology??
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cb7-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude they run single cam iron blocked pushrod engines. What technology??</TD></TR></TABLE>

The technology to let them run at 8,800rpms for the entire race, not just a second or two before changing up a gear.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cb7-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude they run single cam iron blocked pushrod engines. What technology??</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ryanstev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The technology to let them run at 8,800rpms for the entire race, not just a second or two before changing up a gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The technology to let a BIG fuggin motor in a big car run around a track, holding ~8800 RPM for HOURS at nearly 200mph, while making 700-800 WHP naturally aspirated, while tons of restrictions are imposed to limit the motors and cars.............yup, I can't see how any technology is used in making those!
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