All Motor H23
some of you think im out of my mind, but im shooting for 200whp keeping it all motor and non vtec....might switch over to the f23 block for a slight increase in displacement later on, and some cheap torque
mod list:
PnP head
66mm throttle body
port matched intake mani
removed secondaries
egr block off plate
custom stage 2 cams (being manufactured)
custom 4-1 headers
usdm h22a4 pistons (11.x:1 compression)
fully balanced crank
act street ligt flywheel
bomz racing crank pulley
no air conditioning
no power steering
no balancer belt
bypassed cold start valve
bypassed idle air control valve
apexi safc
2.5" custom exhaust from headers back with es oval muffler
custom cold air with k&n filter
obd1 h22 345cc injectors
b&m fuel pressure regulator
3 angle valve job
JG B series cam gears
DIY oil catch can
still working on the mod list...all comments/reccomendations welcome
the bold is what i have so far.....
Modified by hOndafienD 04 at 10:53 PM 2/9/2005
Modified by hOndafienD 04 at 11:06 PM 2/14/2005
mod list:
PnP head
66mm throttle body
port matched intake mani
removed secondaries
egr block off plate
custom stage 2 cams (being manufactured)
custom 4-1 headers
usdm h22a4 pistons (11.x:1 compression)
fully balanced crank
act street ligt flywheel
bomz racing crank pulley
no air conditioning
no power steering
no balancer belt
bypassed cold start valve
bypassed idle air control valve
apexi safc
2.5" custom exhaust from headers back with es oval muffler
custom cold air with k&n filter
obd1 h22 345cc injectors
b&m fuel pressure regulator
3 angle valve job
JG B series cam gears
DIY oil catch can
still working on the mod list...all comments/reccomendations welcome
the bold is what i have so far.....

Modified by hOndafienD 04 at 10:53 PM 2/9/2005
Modified by hOndafienD 04 at 11:06 PM 2/14/2005
so you plan on using pistons with floating pins and a press fit rod? Hope you plan on adding a bushing. Others have done similar stuff to this and it has proven to make power...200whp is a little out of reach with that setup however
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kinkbmx159 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think its reachable. you never know some motors may be gifted!</TD></TR></TABLE>
why do you think its reachable? h22's barely make 200 whp with cams/I/H/E, plus the h23 has a lower redline. Im using h23 crank and rods and type s pistons in a h22 application and Im gonna be lucky to get 200 whp although I will be using stock cams. Besides, an h23 isn't made to get the big HP numbers, it's the fat torque curve you are after. Oh and by the way, 4 cyl engines on have 1 exhaust manifold.
why do you think its reachable? h22's barely make 200 whp with cams/I/H/E, plus the h23 has a lower redline. Im using h23 crank and rods and type s pistons in a h22 application and Im gonna be lucky to get 200 whp although I will be using stock cams. Besides, an h23 isn't made to get the big HP numbers, it's the fat torque curve you are after. Oh and by the way, 4 cyl engines on have 1 exhaust manifold.
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people these days have no faith. stop trying to say no its not gonna happen or blah this, blah that. you never know different builders and different engines are capable of different things.
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why do you think its reachable? h22's barely make 200 whp with cams/I/H/E, plus the h23 has a lower redline. Im using h23 crank and rods and type s pistons in a h22 application and Im gonna be lucky to get 200 whp although I will be using stock cams. Besides, an h23 isn't made to get the big HP numbers, it's the fat torque curve you are after. Oh and by the way, 4 cyl engines on have 1 exhaust manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If an allmotor LS and B20 can make 200+ whp than why cant an allmotor H23 make 200 whp? He may need a lil more sggresive setup but it is still possible!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kinkbmx159 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">people these days have no faith. stop trying to say no its not gonna happen or blah this, blah that. you never know different builders and different engines are capable of different things. </TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly
why do you think its reachable? h22's barely make 200 whp with cams/I/H/E, plus the h23 has a lower redline. Im using h23 crank and rods and type s pistons in a h22 application and Im gonna be lucky to get 200 whp although I will be using stock cams. Besides, an h23 isn't made to get the big HP numbers, it's the fat torque curve you are after. Oh and by the way, 4 cyl engines on have 1 exhaust manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If an allmotor LS and B20 can make 200+ whp than why cant an allmotor H23 make 200 whp? He may need a lil more sggresive setup but it is still possible!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kinkbmx159 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">people these days have no faith. stop trying to say no its not gonna happen or blah this, blah that. you never know different builders and different engines are capable of different things. </TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly
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why do you think its reachable? h22's barely make 200 whp with cams/I/H/E, plus the h23 has a lower redline. Im using h23 crank and rods and type s pistons in a h22 application and Im gonna be lucky to get 200 whp although I will be using stock cams. Besides, an h23 isn't made to get the big HP numbers, it's the fat torque curve you are after. Oh and by the way, 4 cyl engines on have 1 exhaust manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if you cant reach 200 whp in a h22 all motor shoot yourself now...its all about tuning, and the right parts
theres h23's making over 160 whp on just stage 1's with crappy header, cheap intake and i believe stock exhaust it was....no bump in compression or anything which stock is a very lower 9.8:1, no ima gonna be running either 11.1:1 or 11.7:1 thats almost 2:1 compression gain.....
just wait and see
why do you think its reachable? h22's barely make 200 whp with cams/I/H/E, plus the h23 has a lower redline. Im using h23 crank and rods and type s pistons in a h22 application and Im gonna be lucky to get 200 whp although I will be using stock cams. Besides, an h23 isn't made to get the big HP numbers, it's the fat torque curve you are after. Oh and by the way, 4 cyl engines on have 1 exhaust manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if you cant reach 200 whp in a h22 all motor shoot yourself now...its all about tuning, and the right parts
theres h23's making over 160 whp on just stage 1's with crappy header, cheap intake and i believe stock exhaust it was....no bump in compression or anything which stock is a very lower 9.8:1, no ima gonna be running either 11.1:1 or 11.7:1 thats almost 2:1 compression gain.....
just wait and see
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if you cant reach 200 whp in a h22 all motor shoot yourself now... </TD></TR></TABLE>
if you cant reach 200 whp in a h22 all motor shoot yourself now... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dry sump? How about testing out some thermal coatings....know who is going to port your head? I port heads and could do your intake for ya
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What makes or brakes this setup is going to be the header used and head work along with tuning which is real crucial.
The guys making all motor ls's have top of the line headwork with like 12:1 or maybe a little higher comp.
The guys making all motor ls's have top of the line headwork with like 12:1 or maybe a little higher comp.


