Searched but couldn't find what I was looking for specifically, so anyhow.. For those of you guys who run an ACT Extreme clutch with Organic Street Disc, how is the pedal feel?, My first act extreme clutch had a pedal feel that was stiffer than a ****, felt very strong and hurt my leg the first couple weeks but i loved it.

Recently I replaced with a new clutch, same one, with a 12.5lb act flywheel, and stainless clutch line, and the clutch pedal is i'd say 70% softer than before... is that weird?.. and I only have 80 miles on it, and I know I have to break it in, but I did 1 3rd-4th gear wot shift and It didn't grab that hard... is it because the shock springs werent broken in or heated up all the way?.. but anyway.. the pedal feel is totally different now... anyone here want to share how theirs feels?

 

Its all personal preference. Mine feels pretty stiff over stock, by alot. Just get used to it and youll love it. ^_~ (XTSS)

( since my stock clutch lasted over 105k+ miles, it was STIFFER THEN HELL! ) WEird i know..

 

bleed it again man

 

yeah try bleeding it again, if anything it should be stiffer than stock

 

it is definitely stiffer than stock, but not nearly as stiff as my older XT/SS, it was bled alot and I put new honda dot3 brake fluid in when installed, so anyone have a soft pedal xt/ss here?

 

bump for answers!

 

Mine's stiff, but I'm used to it. I think that as a clutch ages, the effort required to push the pedal down increases. Is it possible that you got used to the old clutch, and the new one is easier because it's new?

Just take it easy on the thing for 500 miles, and in the mean time do what PrettyLude said and bleed it some more.

Edit...I just read you you've bled it a lot. Take the bleeder screw out of the slave cylinder and grease the threads so no air can get by if you haven't done this while bleeding.

 

Yea, mines a lot stiffer than stock..Maybe you have a leak in your clutch master cylinder. Go check, that may be causing it to not bleed correctly. Just a thought.

 

i think you just got use to it. before my xt/ss i had a clutchnet stg2. when i first drove my car after installin the xt/ss, it did not seem stiff at all. i thought the install was done wrong but everything seemed fine.

later on, i drove a stock gsr clutch and could tell how stiff the xt/ss really was.

 

haha yea, its funny when you get used to your pedal pressure, then you go and drive in a stocker honda..and your like wtf. It feels like the pedal doesnt have enough pressure to go back up.. haha

 

I love my xt/ss setup held it good....my feels way stifer than stock but its cable trans

 

well, I did get used to my old clutch, but it's not as stiff, if you guys know Dohc Garage, scott and mike hooked it up on the install and they bled the clutchline and put all the new stuff in and I know they know what they are doing. The pressure plate was made in the middle of November 04 since the date is printed on the plate i saw it before it went in the tranny.

I'm thinking if the clutch line needs to be bled more, than the pedal feel and engagement wouldnt be consistent but the engagement is precise every time. The only thing different this time is that I have a lightened flywheel and put a stainless clutch line in. , i guess i'll just have to wait til i hit 500miles and test this thing out

 

maybe i shouldve put this at a different forum?

 

I had a xtss for 2 years and was very happy with it. Held all the power i could throw at it. Now i have a xtr6 which has the same pressure plate but a 6puck unsprung disk. Its aweful in traffic and really isnt alot of fun to drive. However it does get the job done.

I would like to replace it with a twin disk, but i dont know anybody that makes a twin disk for a d-series.

liam

 

I would say that it is a combination of you getting used to it, lubrication upon installation and some changes we made to the design about two years ago. I would venture to guess that the older clutch didn't have the ribs in the diaphragm fingers. These ribs were added to stiffen the diaphragm enough to allow us to change the geometry. This meant we could use a slightly softer diaphragm spring and not lose any clamp load. We did this specifically to lighten the pedal effort over the previous design. I quess it worked.

 

ummmm i once had my master (not the slave) go bad sooo check your carpet. if it has a stain at the top, its leaking and needs to be replaced. mine went bad slowly and the fluid just ran down onto my carpet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACTman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would say that it is a combination of you getting used to it, lubrication upon installation and some changes we made to the design about two years ago. I would venture to guess that the older clutch didn't have the ribs in the diaphragm fingers. These ribs were added to stiffen the diaphragm enough to allow us to change the geometry. This meant we could use a slightly softer diaphragm spring and not lose any clamp load. We did this specifically to lighten the pedal effort over the previous design. I quess it worked.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what kind of a buy in does act have...I tried to send pm but you disabled them

 

hm.. no leak or stain on the carpet, wow actman replied.. woohoo!.. hahaha well i guess i just have to wait and see if this thing grabs as hard as my old one..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xtremeazian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha yea, its funny when you get used to your pedal pressure, then you go and drive in a stocker honda..and your like wtf. It feels like the pedal doesnt have enough pressure to go back up.. haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

totally agree with you! i drove some new civics (even an Si) at the dealership i work at, they feel like butter. Even my moms toyota feels way stiffer than any honda.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jdm_Rice_Monster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of a buy in does act have...I tried to send pm but you disabled them</TD></TR></TABLE>I disabled IM because I couldn't keep up and do my job at the same time. Sorry.
I don't handle sales but I can tell you some basics. We don't have a buy-in for a jobber account but we do require proof that you are a ligitimate automotive business. For deeper discounts we do require not only a buy-in, but also a minimum monthly volume. I don't know the size of your operation but I can tell you that many shops find it more convenient and possibly quicker to buy through a local distributor who has it on the shelf and already sells them other parts. Many times they can leverage their existing relationship for more favorable terms or pricing.

 

i have the ha3 xtss and i love it. its a bit stiffer than stock but its not bad in traffic at all plus it can hold 376tq which will be good enought for a while

 

im assuming you got this clutch in recently deckedlude?.. all XT/SS equipped cars that ive driven were stiff as a **** til i got my new one in

 

yea its about 2-3 months old

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACTman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would say that it is a combination of you getting used to it, lubrication upon installation and some changes we made to the design about two years ago. I would venture to guess that the older clutch didn't have the ribs in the diaphragm fingers. These ribs were added to stiffen the diaphragm enough to allow us to change the geometry. This meant we could use a slightly softer diaphragm spring and not lose any clamp load. We did this specifically to lighten the pedal effort over the previous design. I quess it worked.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks! It is a new clutch and i am still getting used to it. However i would like you guys to make a twin disk And you are right, this is an older pressure plate. Does the newer xt pressure plate have a different peddle feel?

liam

 

hm.. you sure the design was changed TWO years ago?... my older clutch has a stamp engraved "02-17-04", and that clutch's pedal feel was tough as hell, and my newer one was made 11-XX-04, (last month).. and it's about 40% the stiffness of the old one..

Before the new one was installed, i took a look at the pressure plates and they looked pretty identical.. other than the fact that ACT has a diff style logo now.. the model # is AI4-XTSS if that helps.. i just hope it grabs as hard as my old one.