Ohh i just relized that my post didnt go up I have a 95 ex with the normal I/H/E and was wanting to know if advancing my timing by turning the dis. forward a few degrees would show any gains, Also what about chips and ecus maybe a cam and intake mani with a biggerT/B . i want to be different and save money by sticking with the sohc vtec motor. I was thinking turbo later but want a boost in power now Any suggestions and reveiws would helped thanks.


Modified by DEVINEER at 11:08 AM 12/9/2004


Modified by DEVINEER at 11:09 AM 12/9/2004

 

up to you and how much money r u willing to spend

 

I know that just wanting some suggestions from previous experiences with these motors and performance parts. I just bought a 95 ex and i love it. I had a 92 dx 4dr wich is for sale now check it out if needed https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1058122

 

ttt

 

http://www.D-Series.org
Head work from Alantiz, Endyne<sp>, and Exopseed are great choices. Exospeed, Crower, and Web all offer great cams. I would first choose what you what to achieve, and then decide if NA is the correct fit. FYI, if $$$ is an issue and you are on a budget, NA might not be the best choice for you. I went non-vtec and have my setup in my BIO. Good luck, the link above helped me iron out what I needed and wanted.

 

any other sugessions

 

My friend with a 4dr Ex has a decent amount of power full Competition Port and polish from alaniz, Dc 4 into 1 header and a mugen twinloop and puts out 141 hp and 115 ft/lbs on a dynojet, he does not even have an aftermarket intake nor throttlebody hehe. He of course added a fuel pressure regulator and a camgear for tuning. We were telling him to buy a aftermarket camshaft, and custom exhaust to gain more power, I guess his happy with his set-up. Don't need alot of power when road racing unless your in to drag he says, his handle in here is civicferio.


judd

 

If you want to stay n/a, then up your compression with a set of p29 pistons. With a thick headgasket you can manage anywhere from 11.5;1 to 12.5:1 easily..and manageable.

Upgrade your cam to a crower stage 2 or 3, along with the neccessary valvetrain upgrade. Oversized valves would not hurt either. You will not need a standalone to run the crower stage 2, but you might want to if you go with a crower stage 3. Your idle will suffer otherwise.

Both Edelbrock and Skunk2 make nice flowing intake manifolds for the D-Series heads. The verdict is not in on which is the better manifold as of yet.

Exhaust header...DC Sports has been the must-have manifold for the D-Series. However Bisimoto header will give you a nice power gain, but comes with a high price. New companies such as SMSP and Rage Dzine have new models out which will bring power gains above and beyond what DC Sports has done.

 

I added a aem shorty, dc sport 4-2-1, magnaflow straight through ex, and gutted my cat. I notice a major gain in the top end as well in the low. Only thing is that its loud as hell. I have a 4in canister magnaflow maybe switch to a 6 inch. I am thinking about advancing my timing y turning the distributor forward. Would that help? then maybe a intake mani, throttle body, and a cam. port and polish would be nice but later when can save up the money and live without my car for a week. any other tips and suggestions im not new to this just looking for experiences with different parts and setups

 

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New companies such as SMSP and Rage Dzine have new models out which will bring power gains above and beyond what DC Sports has done.</TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have any proof? I haven't seen a dyno plot with the RageDZine header on a D16Z6 against a DC 4-1 yet. I would be interested in seeing one.

s

 

wheres builthatch
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic-4-ges &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want to stay n/a, then up your compression with a set of p29 pistons. With a thick headgasket you can manage anywhere from 11.5;1 to 12.5:1 easily..and manageable.

Upgrade your cam to a crower stage 2 or 3, along with the neccessary valvetrain upgrade. Oversized valves would not hurt either. You will not need a standalone to run the crower stage 2, but you might want to if you go with a crower stage 3. Your idle will suffer otherwise.

Both Edelbrock and Skunk2 make nice flowing intake manifolds for the D-Series heads. The verdict is not in on which is the better manifold as of yet.

Exhaust header...DC Sports has been the must-have manifold for the D-Series. However Bisimoto header will give you a nice power gain, but comes with a high price. New companies such as SMSP and Rage Dzine have new models out which will bring power gains above and beyond what DC Sports has done.
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well said....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have any proof? I haven't seen a dyno plot with the RageDZine header on a D16Z6 against a DC 4-1 yet. I would be interested in seeing one.

s</TD></TR></TABLE>

Proof should be coming...well not direct proof, but trusty butt-dyones have said there are gains with the SMSP over the DC

 

any suggestions for my set up

 

will i made 132hp/104lb with the head package i got from GUDE(bullfrog)....for 1400 you get a PnP head mill a little, TB, Camshaft, Intake Mani, and a matched ECU(only for 92-95 ex or Si)....


http://www.GUDE.com

 

I thoght about doing the gude set up but wasnt shure. Is that wheel horse power and were you happy with it. I was thinking greddy turbo but I want everyday reliability thanks for all the responses Keep em coming!

 

yep..that was wheel hp..i was really happy with it when i smoke the $h!t out of a crx w/b16a and a 91 four door civic w/b16a....after i put my greddy turbo kit on with 6 psi...didn't dyno it though...and i was REALLY happy with the power it was putting out.....until smog came...took everything off....and swap a stock motor back in my coupe...now everything just laying around the garage...

 

Staying all motor can a real challenge, since so many of todays power adders are becoming some what affordable. but the rewards of an all motor set up are attainable for so many of us that other financial priorities like a family, house and etc... A high compression set up with an 11.5.1 or 12.1 pistons would be really sweet, along with some porting, bigger T/B and full exhaust could yield some decent numbers at the track with a light weight chassis and sticky tires.

 

would you want to sell your parts?

 

I hear ya!!!! would be noce to have a fully prept b18c1 turboc moterswap but I have more important things to spen my money one so i want to be diferent and stick with what i got a d16z6.

 

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butt dyno's mean nothing. hardly proof. i really wanna see some dyno sheets.

s

 

I agree, butt-dynos don't always mean much, but from credible sources, they can mean something

 

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the dc to sms change was extremely noticeable...WITHOUT tuning...

dyno day 12/27...

 

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the dc to sms change was extremely noticeable...WITHOUT tuning...

dyno day 12/27...</TD></TR></TABLE>

12/28, any updates .......

 

12/27, went to Evans Tuning and he gave me a FABULOUS tune...but the dynapack's numbers leave little to be desired for comparison purposes since most people (usually myself as well) use Dynojet....

So i took the car today to DRT's Dynojet in Queens...



UNTOUCHED, with 93 octane in the tank...strapped it down and put down-
151/115, 153/116, 154.85/117.85!


run 21 is the lowest run from me he could find in his archive...and oldie for comparo...

I KNEW it had that in it; i told myself as soon as i got off of the Dynapack the other day it was a 155whp engine...

Ralphy said there is nothing he can do to get more power in terms of manipulating the FC. He said Evans did a great job with the A/F; he said the curve was the most impressive one he's ever seen from a NA SOHC in terms of quality; no real dips or issues.



Modified by builthatch at 11:41 PM 12/29/2004

 

holy Resize Batman!

BTW
whats your full-exhaust setup?