I have a 92 teg but I'm going to change the ecu from a pr4 to a p75 is the mugen chip still the best or would there be something better to run.
Thanks

 

turbo is always better

 

What other modifications do you have? Can't just throw in a chip/ECU on a stock motor and expect anything different really. (I'm talking about stock HONDA motors)

EDIT: I just noticed.....MUGEN chip. heheheh....


Modified by shamoo at 10:44 AM 12/8/2004

 

You should be good with the mugen chip.

 

Like shamoo said you need mods that the ecu will be supporting in order to see any power gains from it. Just an ecu with everything else being stock or even an I/H/E won't do much.

 

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Ummm... No.

Throwing on a preprogrammed chip isn't going to do much. If you really want performance gains, you'll want one that's specifically programmed for your vehicle. Also, as shamoo said.. these chips arent going to do anything for a stock vehicle.

 

go with a vtec head and then get a p28 with a hondata chip. You will have fun with that.

 

Those chips are a waste of money.

 

word. dont waste ur money on some chip that was meant for one spefic car that they tuned it spefically for. get a blank chip and have it tuned with UBERDATA or just buy a hondata ecu and go get it dyno tuned. dont even bother get n an upgraded ecu if ur not plan n to add cams, nitrous, turbo, or supercharger.

 

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I want to keep it ls so i can shoot more nos. plus for the cost of doing a Ls-r i could shoot 100 shot of nos and have money to save. plus i would beat a Ls-r or Ls vtec for those who don't use Ls-r

 

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I want to keep it ls so i can shoot more nos. plus for the cost of doing a Ls-r i could shoot 100 shot of nos and have money to save. plus i would beat a Ls-r or Ls vtec for those who don't use Ls-r </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wtf is an ls-r? And they won't be losing to you when your "nos" runs out. Nitrous = cheater system in my book. Horsepower wasn't meant to run out.

 

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Wtf is an ls-r? And they won't be losing to you when your "nos" runs out. Nitrous = cheater system in my book. Horsepower wasn't meant to run out. </TD></TR></TABLE>
For those who don't know what Ls-r is, it means a gsr top block with a ls bottom. And everybody has the chance to go buy nos, so why are the people with nos called cheaters, because the people who lose to people with nos need something to make them fill better. so call me a cheater, but i will win.

 

Then what's the difference between an ls-r and lsvtec, because according to your post you made them out to be 2 different things.

As for the nitrous (I'll assume you're a ricer because you called out to all of the "racers" and refer to it as nos) like I already stated horsepower was not meant to run out. It should always be there for you to use. I could give a **** if anyone can go out and buy it. Anyone can also go out and buy a turbo, but that involves knowing a lot more about your car. I hope you have fun blowing your motor with the nitrous because you probably won't know what your doing with that either.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLacK FirE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then what's the difference between an ls-r and lsvtec, because according to your post you made them out to be 2 different things.

As for the nitrous (I'll assume you're a ricer because you called out to all of the "racers" and refer to it as nos) like I already stated horsepower was not meant to run out. It should always be there for you to use. I could give a **** if anyone can go out and buy it. Anyone can also go out and buy a turbo, but that involves knowing a lot more about your car. I hope you have fun blowing your motor with the nitrous because you probably won't know what your doing with that either.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No theres no difference between Ls-r and ls-vtec but where i'm from we don't use the therm ls-vtec. I know everybody can go out and but turbo but i won't get mad at them for using it, like people call squeezers cheaters. Also for the money that you pay for turbo you can, you can almost buy yourself a whole new honda. Plus a nos car can beat a turbo car. **** i beat a turbo car and i'm all motor right now. turbo is a good investment but you still can't boost that much on honda. plus turbo has alot of problems.

 

Please learn a thing or two before trying to argue. Since when does a new Honda cost $3000? And I would like to hear what kind of mods done to your ls that makes you able to beat turbo cars. Cause there's no way your beating a boosted ls as all motor unless you have some kind of insane motor setup. As for reliability and boost, it comes down to tuning. Everything is tuning. You can make the car like the turbo was stock on it. And boost is a relative term. It's not how much boost the motors can handle, but how much horsepower. I have a friend making 227whp on his turbo ls. There's other people making over 300whp on their turbo ls's. So try and stop talking out of your ***. We aren't those ricers you hang out with, so you're not going to fool anyone.

Again have fun blowing your motor.

 

In the world of import modifications, the sky is the limit. If you like to "squeeze" you squeeze. If you like the exhilerating sound of a BOV, then you go turbo haha . What ever floats your boat basically.

Either way, your bound to run into major problems down the line if not built/tuned properly.

Keep sprayin your stock block and a few more runs, sure you'll be beating other ricers, but will your block live too see tomarrow?

 

i'll also like to know if a mugen chip would give a stock motor any gains.
butt dyno counts for me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by $$broke_db8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'll also like to know if a mugen chip would give a stock motor any gains.
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Yes it helps the pr4 even with the motor stock. I had my mugen chip put in before i added more stuff in my car. The only real difference is the rev limit. It also adds some horse but the biggest difference is the rev limit. Now on a p75 i don't know but i would think it would do the same.

 

i remember playing gran turismo 3 and buying the chip was always the way to get secret horsepower. when i was ******* poor in the beginning with an 86 the chip got me like 25 horsepower. then i owned up in that 80s theme race. ******* 300zx thought he had something on my POS 86 with a chip. too bad he had the 2+2! ******!

 

if youre not gonna listen to other peoples advice dont give bad advice to others.

 

They have the rev limiter their for a reason. It's to prevent you from overreving and causing valve float. The only reason you would need a higher redline was if you had a worked head. I'm still waiting to hear your monster setup that allows you to beat turbo cars with your car.


Modified by BLacK FirE at 11:52 AM 12/9/2004

 

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word!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLacK FirE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They have the rev limiter their for a reason. It's to prevent you from overreving and causing valve float. The only reason you would need a higher redline was if you had a worked head. I'm still waiting to hear your monster setup that allows you to beat turbo cars with your car.


Modified by BLacK FirE at 11:52 AM 12/9/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
I really don't need to tell you what i have but i really don't care because it's not much.
1. basic bolt on H/I/E
2. crowler cam shaft and cam gears
3. 75 shot of nos single fogger
4. mugen ecu chip
5. bf goodrich street slicks
That is it! And yes i beat turbo car.

 

I'll assume you mean crower cams. Now are those 403's, 404's or what? If you want your motor to last you're going to want to upgrade your valvetrain since you have upgraded cams. The best way to get the most power out of those cams is to get yourself a safc and have it tuned. And you also may wanna upgrade your bottom end if you're going to keep using a 75shot. I personally, if I were to use nitrous, would not use more than a 50 shot on a stock bottom end.

And yes you needed to tell me and everyone else that has replied to this thread for us to be able to help you. Had you posted your setup in your initial post, you would have gotten a much better response from everyone.

 

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I really don't need to tell you what i have but i really don't care because it's not much.
1. basic bolt on H/I/E
2. crowler cam shaft and cam gears
3. 75 shot of nos single fogger
4. mugen ecu chip
5. bf goodrich street slicks
That is it! And yes i beat turbo car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and by you beat a turbo car, what car woudl that be? cuase id like to know