made the same post in all motor but maybe i can get some other input here:

What do you guys think, i have looked around a lot, and saw the jdogg dyno of the RM cams, and also saw his dyno of jun cams
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1077166 - jun dyno - 217 whp
it looks to me like more hp was still coming if he revved a bit higher....any thoughts?

cant find the rocket dyno on h-t but its on kteller.com link here - 179 whp
http://www.kteller.com/store/p.../1070

he had 8 bent exhaust valves with the rocket dyno, thats why it looks low

he fixed the valves for the jun dyno, so now i dont really have a definate comparison, theres too many variables to really draw any conclusion from this.....

so what do you guys think....and peak hp is not my only consideration, though it would be nice to have some big numbers up there....but im really concerned with midrange gains......some thick area under the curve and $350 for the set is definately better than the juns for $1500 with the valvetrain

so what thoughts do you guys have on some ballpark RM vs JUN numbers??

also, it says on kteller you will be ok with stock valvetrain as long as you keep stock rev limit....but it looks like that dyno peaks out at around 7600-7700, so i have two questions:

1)will the stock valvetrain be ok if i raise the rev limit to about 7800 on my hondata

2)will the stock valvetrain be ok anyway with these cams...aka has anyone been running em now for a while on stock valvetrain? if so how are they doing?

Thanks guys

 

it specifically says on the JUN paper work that you need to use their Valvetrain. i dont know exactly how accurate this is, but i decided to use their valvetrain as well as their cams. I didnt want to take the risk of dropping a valve, or anything stupid like that happening just because i wanted to save a few dollars.

I spend 1400 bucks for the valvetrain and the cams. Not to shabby if you ask me. i also reved my car to 8K for the dyno. My numbers were a bit low as i had a code 9 (which is now fixed) stock intake manifold, AEM crap filter, stock clutch/flywheel. stock cam gears.

Now ive changed all that and i need to retune, all in due time. Im a firm lover of JUN products. Sure you could put some other cam in there, but is it JUN ? lol

Eidt: After talking to Rick Solis Ive found that any spring capable of handling over the lift and rpm required required for the JUN cams will work... Its recomended that you use the retainer made for the specific spring.


Modified by 98TypeSH at 12:38 PM 12/7/2004


Modified by 98TypeSH at 12:41 PM 12/7/2004

 

basically, im trying to figure out how much of a difference the bent valves made....like if jdogg had done a dyno with sound valves and the rm cams what kinda numbers would he have hit??

 

honestly couldent tell you. Depends on Dyno conditions, and many other things.

The world will never know

 

don't forget he also retuned the EMS with the JUN cams, so you would have to compare his redline and the RM graph, less the bent valve quotient to get your answer.

 

that car has always had aem ems in it... every dyno graph you see from me about this h22 has been fully tuned w/the ems.. the type s cams, the rocket cams and the jun3 cams.

in both the dyno's i posted with the jun3's the ems was fully tuned.. the gains came from cam gear tuning and swapping parts.

as for the rockets.. i would expect about 15more hp from them with good valves.