I have a 98 Coupe with a JDM B18C swap in it. It's quick but I need more MUCH MORE! I remember seeing a copy of Super Street with the Meguiar's Type R on the cover. It had a Jackson Racing blower with a turbo kit as well, boasting somewhere near 400 or 450 hp. I was wondering... has any1 else tried this and what luck if any was had? I know I must drop the C/R so i can run more boost. I was also wondering if it was at all possible to run the JR blower, a Vortec blower, AND a small turbo setup, maybe utilizing some sort of a Y-pipe from Vortec and turbo into JR. Any1 have any idea if it is at all possible or if I can even fit all this **** under my hood. I know it sounds stupid but let me know what u think anyway.

 

one word


WHY!!!!!!!

 

why not save your money.....get a nice turbo setup..build the motor and tune the bitch and have fun...trust me then u would never think of doing the mess your thinking of doing

 

I want to build the motor up, top and bottom. I had thoughts of just building the **** out of the motor and putting the biggest turbo I can get 4 it but all the different turbo terms confuse the hell outa me. I know what they do and how they work and all but I'm having a hard time finding what turbo setup is right for me. I know that i would be happy if I was putting down between 300-350 but why stop there if I don't have to. I would like to be able to put down closer to 400 if possible but again I know not what turbo I use. Oh yeah...2 words...Why not?

 

if money is an issue with you i say go full-race with nice pretty turbo

 

at a certain point all the different tools being used to force air into the motor is simply and over built, non functional set up, your motor can only suck so much compressed air into it...if you think about the numbers you want and look around here on h-t you will learn very quickly that this idea may sound cool and all however it is pretty much pointless. especially knowing that there are people here on the board that are putting out well over 300 with BONE stock motors...i'll leave it at that for now...oh yeah if you don't understand the turbo terms, how do you expect to be able to slap something like that together and actually make it work correctly?

 

I wasn't going to just "slap" any turbo system on my car. If i wanted to do that I'd go to a junkyard and piece one together. I want a high quality unit (preferably polished) that's gonna give me a whole lotta oommpphhh. Price to me is no issue for my car is my baby. I refuse to put sub-standard equipment in it just because it's all I can afford at the time. If I want it bad enough I can wait for the ultra-nasty piece that I really want vice getting something that I am going to be dissatisfied with.

 

definetly get a polished turbo, its maddddd power yO

 

I might be stoopid but I'm not dumb.
EVERYONE knows a polished turbo gives more power

 

http://www.full-race.com

and dont come back to our forum for 3 weeks.

 

There are pleanty of people making 600whp that arn't putting down any faster times than a car with 350whp.

Spend your money on a well rounded setup and you'll be faster than 90% of the turbo hondas out there - if thats what you want.

 

dude, i think you need to do alot of research on the fundamentals of turbo hondas, there is plenty of info on here. But this isnt monster garage that does ridiculous FI setups that are not practical at all.

 

http://www.drtracing.com

they use to run a small twin setup on their drag car i actually think they still do

 

ok, ok, here what you do, go get on ebay, get that full-race electric turbo, then get a jackson racing supercharger...then get the vortec supercharger, along with the procharger setup....ALL POLISHED an ANODIXED build the bottom end with top secret cryo treated, shot-peened, polished rods and pistons (from ebay) have the head ported as if it was a top fuel dragster (WIDE OPEN) drop the car off at a local shop so they can do everything for you, once it's done take it to have tuned with the hack and fmu then let us know how much power it puts down

 

if you are actually serious about this.....

then forget about all that **** and just build the motor and get a nice turbo setup (single turbo, for clarification purposes)

make sure to do fuel system upgrades and tune it with hondata or other EMS

you really don't even have to have a built motor for 350whp but it is a good idea if you can afford it and then you can crank up the boost

 

ive personally seen a twin charged integra at a show down at englishtown...looked pretty tight
in all hoensty..the concept is there.....power from the get-go...and more power coming on at like 3600...but theres one problem
think of how you should lower the compression on a motor just to go turbo cuz of the forced air
now...what will happen when you atlesat double that pressure of air?
id say...if you got the bills...do it and let us know...id reserach more though.....get some HIGH QUALITY ISH

 

2 different superchargers and a turbo setup on one car? You are an idiot

 

A couple of you guys are trying to tell me that I'm failing in an opinion test. The twin/triple charged idea that I had was just that...an idea. Slam me if you want for thinking of something (rediculous maybe) but different and something that I have not heard of nor seen for myself. I've decided that I want to run a single turbo setup, however as I had previously stated, I'm not that familiar with the turbo names. A friend of mine has a 94 Integra LS with a Drag 3 kit and it moves nice but I want more than that. I would be satisfied if I can get my car in the 400 club while still retaining my a/c and power steering. Any input.....?

 

I think you're a nut, but if you're serious, why not do a roots blower, and a centrifugal? You'll need some sort of clutch system on the roots that kicks in around 4000rpm, where the centri blower starts to really pump.

As for the blower, you'll need a honda specific or marine blower, as Honda B, D, and K series, and boat motors spin *** backwards compared to every other car ot there.


btw, don't worry about these twits who post here. They're a bunch of lonely losers who die a little bit everytime they see someone doing something cool and different.

 

It's obvious that you have enough negative criticism... But I can't help but point out that a built and properly tuned twin blown application will probably cost you 12-15k. Not to mention a third charger would bring you on up to 2-3k more. I don't mean to discourage your wishful thinking but I seriously doubt you have the kind of money it would take to build this motor. Let alone maintain it, and what about when it breaks down? And it will.

Ask yourself a few questions..

Where is the Meguiars twin blown Type R now? Yes someone bought it but why don't you hear about or see pictures of it anymore?

Why didn't they ever do any road tests on such a super car? Why did they only have a dyno plot?

What is your goal in building your Integra?

Do you ever want to drive it on the street after you do this?

Are you going to trailer it to all the car shows like Meguiars did to theirs?

Judging by your limited FI knowledge I am guessing you don't intend to tune this your self. Even if there are a dozen of the best tuners in your area how many of them do you think have tuned a twin blown B series? Theoretically it may not be "that" difficult but then again theories are only speculation. Is it possible? Yes. Is it the last logical thing to do to a B series motor? No, it isn't even logical.

Two blowers? Too complex.

If nothing else do this... Build the motor put on a turbo kit, tune it or have it tuned, then decide if you want to throw a supercharger at it.

 

2 superchargers and a turbo? the biggest turbo you can get for "it"? lol are u trying to make a car for the drag strip? have u ever been in a turbo honda? its four cylinders and front wheel drive. ur talking about spending over $15,000 to build your motor and supercharge it twice and turbo it which iv never heard of lol. i strongly suggest u do 6 months of research befor buying any parts. i researched for a year befor piecing together my setup and there are still things i wish i would have known. pacience young one.

by the way im putting down 290whp at 9psi on my b18c1 AND MY TURBO IS NOT POLISHED!!! O ****

 

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Running around in a pink tutu everywhere is different, but you don't see guys doing that. See what I'm getting it? Just because it's a different idea doesn't mean it's a good idea.

 

sue me for trying to think outa tha box
turbos are played out anyway
lol
see ya'll in englishtown

 

hey man its cool that you are thinking creatively. The only problem i see is that you obviously have little knowledge on FI (no offense, i have little knowledge as it is) therefore doing this huge setup would be like learning to run before learning to crawl can you agree with this? i mean in my opinion you should boost it single turbo and then see where you are at and move on to more "creative" projects...i just think that setup would be a killer for a FI guru let alone a "newbie" such as ourselves...but as far as i've read you will be more than pleased with a nice turbo setup...FULL Race if you got the money..they are pretty bling too. good luck with whatever you choose

 

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err... if money was an issue wouldn't that NOT be the route to go?

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Spend your money on a well rounded setup and you'll be faster than 90% of the turbo hondas out there - if thats what you want.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so true