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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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This retard has too much time on his hands.


http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c...37418/


Make sure to contact him and tell him how stupid his article is.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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actually the autor is correct....TODAYS auto tranny's rival that of the 5 or 6 speed manuels!

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually the autor is correct....TODAYS auto tranny's rival that of the 5 or 6 speed manuels!
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Authors is also saying manual cars are bad they cause more accidents.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Man that's awesome! The only way someone could say all that and perceivably still keep a straight face is to put it in writing. If I ever met a person who actually believes all that, I would honestly be speechless and would just turn around and walk away. lol

"Driver distraction is one of the major causes of vehicle accidents." Haha indeed it is. But I would argue that driving a stick shift actually keeps your focus more on the driving and less on the coffee drinking, burger eating, cell phone talking, putting on makeuping, etc. But seriously this entire paragraph deserves to be quoted here. It's hilarious:

"To start from standstill, the driver must coordinate both feet, using the right foot to bring up the engine speed and the left foot to slowly engage the clutch. At the same time, he has to judge the engine speed to anticipate the change to another gear. This he does aurally (listening to the revs) or visually (watching the tachometer). Listening to the engine can distract the driver from important auditory stimuli (e.g. approaching emergency vehicles), while watching the tachometer removes his eyes from the road. At the same time, neither foot is available for instantaneous braking."

Not considering the 100 other hilarious comments made in this paragraph, I like how being able to instantaneously brake becomes such a great concern while standing still. At least with a manual, you actually have to put it in gear and step on the gas before acquiring any kind of forward momentum, while with an auto the thing just starts going forward before even pressing on the gas. How unsafe!!!

That was great, thanks again.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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their own retort.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c...09258/

i dont think they take themselves seriously, so nobody else should either.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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I especially liked this part-

"The manual's mechanical efficiency advantage is always lost because drivers never shift optimally for efficiency. Engines are invariably over-revved, either through ignorance or the pursuit of aural pleasure. A properly sorted automatic is always in the correct gear, never makes a mistake, and demands infinitely less attention from the driver."

This guy needs to drive my station wagon, its always in the wrong gear...
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"Driver distraction is one of the major causes of vehicle accidents." </TD></TR></TABLE>

So basically the argument here is that the actual act of driving the car is distracting in terms of driving the car.

Thats really really funny.
If they were being comical...
If it was intended to be a serious argument, well, nevermind.

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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once you learn how to drive a stick, it becomes instinct. it takes more focus to scratch your *****.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TODAYS auto tranny's rival that of the 5 or 6 speed manuels!

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I wonder if this one is a 5 or 6 speed Manuel?
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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Well go try his i mean it and post.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elgorey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I wonder if this one is a 5 or 6 speed Manuel?
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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I'm sure that the author of this blasphemy was one of those sad kids who never was able to coordinate his feet well enough to drive stick.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CLMTAutoXR888 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sure that the author of this blasphemy was one of those sad kids who never was able to coordinate his feet well enough to drive stick.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha....true.....he was probably the one that would "burn-out" at every stop and go intersection causing the car to engulf in an extreme rocking motion of wieght transfer that made his coffee fall onto his lap.....
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
"To start from standstill, the driver must coordinate both feet, using the right foot to bring up the engine speed and the left foot to slowly engage the clutch. At the same time, he has to judge the engine speed to anticipate the change to another gear. This he does aurally (listening to the revs) or visually (watching the tachometer). Listening to the engine can distract the driver from important auditory stimuli (e.g. approaching emergency vehicles), while watching the tachometer removes his eyes from the road. At the same time, neither foot is available for instantaneous braking."</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's the funniest quote right there, obviously coming from a panzy *** girly man who's actually either never been good at driving a manual transmission, or only knows how to drive a automatic.



Someone should also point out to this loser, that automatic transmissions fail over time, much more so than any manual transmission. So if you like to spend more money on an automatic transmission and plan to rebuild it every 75k miles, go for it!

their website should be call http://www.ourbiasedtruthaboutcarsfromgirlymen.com
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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The easier you make it to drive a vehicle, the less attention people pay to driving it... take someone and put them into an old roadster with no power brakes, no power steering, no automatic tranny, no automatic anything- I'd bet you they drive more safely than when they are in their new luxury sedan.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Stickshift cars bad for driving? I hope NOT (mos)

The article sounds pretty tongue-in-cheek, and there's a counter-argument posted right after it...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c....html
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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ahem, Stealth, Tyson posted the rebuttal link about, oh, 10 posts ago...
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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I hope this guy is joking. Of course, looking at the "Bona Fides" section it says he's an automotive engineer so it's quite possible he actually is that insane.

In my opinion, if managing a manual gearbox while slowly pulling out of an intersection is too overwhelming, you're probably should put your driver's license in the shredder and ask your grandkids for a ride.

And if you ever want to buy a sports car with an automatic, you should be hung by your pinkie toes and beaten severely.

Besides, Hitler liked automatic transmissions! HITLER!
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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That article was awesome! The tongue was much more firmly planted in cheek for the anti-stickshift than the pro-stickshift rebuttal..

The pictures (and captions) take the cake, though! "Driver distraction is a real bitch." and "Another stick shift car bites the dust (and gets a free shower)"

Thanks for the laugh!
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Raceworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And if you ever want to buy a sports car with an automatic, you should be hung by your pinkie toes and beaten severely.

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You should be hung by your yam-bag
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually the autor is correct....TODAYS auto tranny's rival that of the 5 or 6 speed manuels!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I drove a TSX with an automatic on Friday night... no way in hell. That damned fluid coupling sapped ALL the fun out of the drivetrain.

Clutchless manuals are way cool, though.

The article was satire, if anyone couldn't figure it out.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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I don't think there's any way that article could of been written serously. I'd be rolling on the ground half-way through writing.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Great article. Was worth an Avatar to me.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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A little info about the author

"Bob Elton is an automotive engineer who, over the last 30 years, has worked for all of the big 3 and a number of suppliers as well. Elton holds a couple of dozen patents, and currently works as a consultant to a major automotive supplier. In addition to an engineering background, he has a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree and has worked inside styling studios at Ford, GM and Navistar. Elton has been an occasional contributor to Old Cars Weekly and has contributed regularly to numerous car club publications. He is currently teaching a class in the automotive restoration program at Washtenaw Community College."
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smokin rubber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A little info about the author

"Bob Elton is an automotive engineer who, over the last 30 years, has worked for all of the big 3 and a number of suppliers as well. Elton holds a couple of dozen patents, and currently works as a consultant to a major automotive supplier. In addition to an engineering background, he has a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree and has worked inside styling studios at Ford, GM and Navistar. Elton has been an occasional contributor to Old Cars Weekly and has contributed regularly to numerous car club publications. He is currently teaching a class in the automotive restoration program at Washtenaw Community College."</TD></TR></TABLE>
when i read "credentials" like that, i wonder, "how come he cant hold a job?"
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahem, Stealth, Tyson posted the rebuttal link about, oh, 10 posts ago... </TD></TR></TABLE>

ouch. i got owned.

That's not *too* many jobs for 30 years...
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