i just bought a eg and i have always wanted to do a h22 hatch , but i've been reading and also watching some vids of the k20's in hatchs and now i'm kinda in the middle of maybe wanting to do a k my friend that sold me the hatch has a k20r in a 94 integra and its fast i'm also on a buget so what do you guys think?(like what would you do) you like the k's over the h's or whatever you could learn me on let me know. if this is a repost question point me to the right thread.

thanks

 

K20 lighter,faster,newer, and an extra gear.

 

ya i like them a lot, its a nice motor just the money is kinda getting me like i haven't seen how much it would be, i would do myself and just run a hondata my friend with the k20r teg did it real cheap but thats because he was lucky and found a cheap clip it will never happen again thing, but anyway

thanks

 

if your on a tight budget, h22. but the k20a would be the best swap ever, its expensive but its worth it.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself...god.....man..give me that k20 please!!!

 

K SERIES ALL THE WAY BABY

 

I'd say H-series

 

k-series is the next best thing...but then if you're on a budget like you said...h-series would be the best thing for your hatch...i know stock k-series respond to bolt ons very well...but an h22 hatch can hang with k-series hatches...as for me, i'd do a built k-series...hahahaha.

 

I have an H22A in a Civic hatch right now. Love it, but would trade it for the K20 in a heartbeat!!!

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totally agree here. Also another thing to consider since the K20 is a smaller engine there will be less severe axles angle than the H22s. Considering that there are lots of people who have not had any longetivity problems, vibes, or breakage problems with H22 swaps, but I personally believe that the closer u get to stock axles angles the better off u will be.

 

my buddy has a k20 hatch. he hit a 12.4xx with basic bolt-ons and slicks...... i rode in that shiet and man does that thing fly....... IMO i would take the k20 over a h22 anyday IF i had the money to spend on the k20 swap. i believe he spent somewhere around $8-10K on this swap and it runs like a champ.......

 

k20

 

fooo shhhooo K series, just wait a little longer and get the K. that **** pulls hard.

 

Definitely K20 swap when my D15 dies! Hoping to have the money by then.

 

no doubt k20...dont even think twice about that

 

H, K and F motors have all made well over 330WHP NA... They are all full of potential and plenty capable.

I personally like the H motor because it has all the potential of the K and costs less to build. Its also a lot more reliable.

The H head flows just as good if not better than the K head, The H bottom end is less prone to failure, taller deck (K20 is similar to the B series), if your building a drag motor your going to ditch VTEC and or I VTEC anyways so theres no gain there, B series trannies can be adapted to the H series motors while K trannies are known for their problems and failures.

Id still stick with the H for a drag motor, when I get tired of the H Ill go straight to the F20C

 

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It's all about the extra gear!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innovation &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H, K and F motors have all made well over 330WHP NA... They are all full of potential and plenty capable.

I personally like the H motor because it has all the potential of the K and costs less to build. Its also a lot more reliable.

The H head flows just as good if not better than the K head, The H bottom end is less prone to failure, taller deck (K20 is similar to the B series), if your building a drag motor your going to ditch VTEC and or I VTEC anyways so theres no gain there, B series trannies can be adapted to the H series motors while K trannies are known for their problems and failures.

Id still stick with the H for a drag motor, when I get tired of the H Ill go straight to the F20C
</TD></TR></TABLE> first off have you built any Kseries engines or trannys? It doesnt sound like it. First off H22 and K20 valves are the same and the cranks share basically the same bore centers. The K are more similar to the Hseries than the any of the B seiers. Second how does the H have all the potential of the K? With the K swap having somewhere around 60lbs less weight over the H, the 6speed, the K engine being on the passenger side of the car distributes the weight better, the direct fire ignition.......... and so on.

K series is the way

 

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K series is the way
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The K cranks/blocks do share the same bore spacing as the H but the cranks rod journals and rods themselves are .155 more narrow than the H series... Advantage H series

The heads flow pretty clsoe, when completely reworked you can expect simlar results from either head...

When building a drag motor your not going to be using VTEC or VTC so theres not going to be an advantage with the K motor there... The K rocker is roller which is good but you are limited in lift capacity... The H series rocker can be make to handle .600 lift and if you feel it necessary, there are roller kits for H motors as well.

The trannies are 6spd but why and how is that ever necessary? There are close ratio 1-5 gear sets available for the B trannies which can be adapted to the H motor, several FD options and individual gears as well. The K series lacks in aftermarket gear support. K trannies are a little on the weak side as well, talk to someone who has a lot of experience with K motors (edo comes to mind) and theyll tell you the same.

Everyone likes K motors, they seem to be the hot ticket of the moment but to me... They ahvent really outdone the H/F motors as expected. Power output is still around what the H and F motors have put out. To my knowldge Bisi is still making more power on gas and carbs than Skunk or Norris. It will be interesting to see what Bisi will do with the new car.

If you are speaking in terms of bolt ons, I would say that the K series is a lot more responsive to simple mods than the H/F motors are. But in terms of a full tilt drag motor, its an even playing field, power output is going to be pretty simlar either way you go.

 

K20 K20 K20 K20 K20 K20 K20 K20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Heres a reason why you should get a k20 into an EG !!!!!!!! this is mine by the way

 

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THe H22 sits really nice too. Here is a picture of my H22 99 Hatch. I really like my H22, but i would of got a K20 if i had the money.
I have not seen a K20 with AC though. I got AC

 

Everyone is telling you to go K20 and I would also, but how much money do you have to spend is the real question. The K20 swap is like $10,000 opposed to $4000 for a H22 swap, just something to think about............

 

f20+k tranny =P

 

Yo brandon its Kris, MAN get the k20a you will have no regrets i promise you, i dont and i didnt even spend as much as everyone else did. But if funds are low the h22 is a pretty good swap also, Shawn's (RED EK h22 pic above) runs pretty good to

You shawn when we gonna run it back?