I am using power fc now. I heard many people said hondata make a lot of power. I am confuse what the different between them. And should i replace power fc to hondata??

 

one is apex and one is hondata

 

Hondas is a great software. But it is on the pricey side.

Look into uberdata.

 

go with hondata

 

Hondata doesnt make good power, nor does the power fc.
The tuner who tunes them makes good power if he/she is a good tuner. They are both good systems, Hondata is more proven on Hondas though.

 

HOndata= overpriced

Uberdata= just as good and free

 

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As much as I hate Hondata, it is not overpriced. It is priced cheaper then the other LICENCED software systems out there.

Uberdata is good, and is free. But Hondata is not overpriced because Uberdata is free.
People gotta make money. Thats nice that the people who created Uberdata dont need the money. They program for fun. So did the guys at Hondata until they realized they could make money off it.

$$$$$$ makes the world go round. Whoever disagrees disagrees because they dont have any. Thats my Opinion

 

The only reason I say that is, I had my hondata not very long and it just stopped working out of the blue which was pretty strange. When I tried to get some help in the matter got absolutly nothing from them, no help nothing. For the price they charge there should be good customer support to go along with that, and they def do not have that. If there price was a bit lower I would agree, but for tha price I would think customer service should be included. DOn't get my wrong I have always said hondata this and hondata that, but after this experiance it made me think twice.

 

Thats why i cant stand Hondata. They are ******. But it is what it is. For what it is, the price is fair, just not good support

 

link on uberdata? I've never heard of it before.

 

ditto

 

http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata/forum/

 

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for free, its actually a really good system.

But even better is Neptune. Its like $100 to prep your ECU for it from Evan's tuning. I saw some of the options on it and the GUI and it looks dope as chit

 

Interesting... thanks Pete.

 

Yeah I would agree if you are with in distance of Jeff, then I would def recommend neptune.

 

No prob. Thing is, Jeff knows what he wants in a good standalone and from what I got of it he worked with the designed to make it how he wanted to see it and work with it. So if you know jeff, its gonna be a bad *** system.

 

heard uberdata sux........

check sig anyone wanna trade

 

From the standpoint of never having used the PFC/datalogit and only looking at the capabilities on paper and screenshots, I would be inclined to play with the PFC over the Hondata since it has a lot of extra parameters & fine tuning/tweaking detail stuff I might find useful.

For somebody who has no idea about either, the Hondata is easier to use and you would probably warm up to it a lot quicker.

In terms of complexity and depth of calibration, the PFC/datalogit falls b/w the Hondata and AEM EMS.

My opinion on the Uberdata vs. Hondata debate....I'll take Hondata any day, but I can work with either if you give me more time with the Uberdata. I'm still partially biased since nobody I know has set up real-time editing and datalogging/map trace with Uberdata yet. It may very well be almost as easy to use as Hondata with those two options running.

Until then, the only thing I can say is that the Uberdata datalogging (logs lambda, rpm, and MAP) would still lack the ability to log IAT, ECT, TPS, STFT, LTFT, IACV duty cycle, blah blah blah, and all that other good stuff that a code scanner could see. I use that stuff for troubleshooting sometimes, so I find it useful.

EDIT: Ignore my brainlessness....Uberdata v1.7 (w/ the datalogger port implemented) can do some of those readings. It can do IAT, ECT, TPS, AFR, vehicle speed, o2 volts(same as AFR?), MAP, and RPM.


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Power FC with Datalogit is what I use on all of my cars.

The datalogit saves a lot of time when tuning on the dyno.

 

ohhh sorry rong post

 

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Power FC with Datalogit is what I use on all of my cars.

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Hey Reid

Can you elaborate more on the datalogit in terms of it's user friendlness and if you think it is worth the price its asking?
I am also using power fc but with commander, i am just not sure if its a good investment for tuning and i really can't find any support for datalogit either on H-T or other places.

thanks

 

You should buy a Power FC because it's a Plug&Play replacement for the stock ITR ECU. With the Hondata you would have to buy a OBD2A &lt;-&gt; OBD1 harness adapter first and a P28 or other ECU.

The Commander is also a nice unit to monitor your engine parameters while driving.

And the Power FC has way more options than the Hondata and you can get a Power FC with Commander for $800 or less on ebay NEW.

 

what about Autronic y0 ?!?!?!