Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it?
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Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it?
I remember back a couple weeks ago, someone mentioned in a thread about headers that this header shown..is supposed to be proven to make a lot of power...i'm not doubting it by any means but I wouldn't mind seeing some sort of dyno chart or someone that has it to admit to the quality and proven power. I haven't heard anything about them so just curious to see what you guys have to say about it. thanks in advance 
I believe the header manufacturer is called RMF? can someone clarify that? thanks
I believe the header manufacturer is called RMF? can someone clarify that? thanks
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (dkim48)
The car comes stock with a tubular header. The only real reason to get an aftermarket header is if you are trying to save weight or if you go F/I. Don't expect significant gains with any header.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (GChambers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GChambers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't expect significant gains with any header.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not true.
Here is my plot Stock vs. Toda Header/Testpipe.
EDIT: None of that "Your numbers are low" crap.... THIS IS A MUSTANG CHASSIS DYNO.
Not true.
Here is my plot Stock vs. Toda Header/Testpipe.
EDIT: None of that "Your numbers are low" crap.... THIS IS A MUSTANG CHASSIS DYNO.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (Ferrell)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ferrell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not true.
Here is my plot Stock vs. Toda Header/Testpipe.
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I bet alot of that power came from the testpipe and not the header. To show how much the header really gained you should have put a test pipe on the stock header. I bet more than half that power came from removing the cat alone.
Not true.
Here is my plot Stock vs. Toda Header/Testpipe.
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I bet alot of that power came from the testpipe and not the header. To show how much the header really gained you should have put a test pipe on the stock header. I bet more than half that power came from removing the cat alone.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (Whitey.)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whitey. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I bet alot of that power came from the testpipe and not the header. To show how much the header really gained you should have put a test pipe on the stock header. I bet more than half that power came from removing the cat alone.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree. There was a thread about single exhausts with a dyno chart of a T1R exhaust that "showed" a 12 hp gain. But, it was with a test pipe as well. Ferrell, I would bet that if you ran the header with the cat installed instead of the test pipe, you would not show much gain over stock.
I bet alot of that power came from the testpipe and not the header. To show how much the header really gained you should have put a test pipe on the stock header. I bet more than half that power came from removing the cat alone.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree.
There was a thread about single exhausts with a dyno chart of a T1R exhaust that "showed" a 12 hp gain. But, it was with a test pipe as well. Ferrell, I would bet that if you ran the header with the cat installed instead of the test pipe, you would not show much gain over stock.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (GChambers)
I can attest the Toda header does promte gains and this has been proven on a dyno. I have tested the car stock, then with a toda header, then tuned the setup via EMS.
If you guys don't know, don't spread misinformation. My friend said this, I heard that.
The only way you'll be certain if THIS specific header in this thread makes power is to properly test it, proper means with an educated dyno tuner that performs proper experiments keeping variables constant (water temp etc etc etc). I hear so much this and that it drives me crazy. I'll bet 85% of all parts tested on dynos aren't tested properly and all lose power.
If you guys don't know, don't spread misinformation. My friend said this, I heard that.
The only way you'll be certain if THIS specific header in this thread makes power is to properly test it, proper means with an educated dyno tuner that performs proper experiments keeping variables constant (water temp etc etc etc). I hear so much this and that it drives me crazy. I'll bet 85% of all parts tested on dynos aren't tested properly and all lose power.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (Ferrell)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ferrell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thank you Ardy 
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no need to thank me dude, it gets sickening to hear the same song by people that obviously don't know what they're talking about.
A friend brought a good point about the s2000 that applies to all other car manufactuers that limit hp output within their model lineups to prevent stealing sales from the upper model. If the s2000 made more power than it did out of the box, it would limit NSX sales (not like they sold well last year and this year anyways). But the point remains true.
I have a goal: to see if I can make 260whp out of a stock longblock F20C, I know that is very likely from a F22, but there is still A LOT of development room for our cars.
</TD></TR></TABLE>no need to thank me dude, it gets sickening to hear the same song by people that obviously don't know what they're talking about.
A friend brought a good point about the s2000 that applies to all other car manufactuers that limit hp output within their model lineups to prevent stealing sales from the upper model. If the s2000 made more power than it did out of the box, it would limit NSX sales (not like they sold well last year and this year anyways). But the point remains true.
I have a goal: to see if I can make 260whp out of a stock longblock F20C, I know that is very likely from a F22, but there is still A LOT of development room for our cars.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (vapor)
The header looks like a good design, but it could be improved upon. The collectors look a bit ify, and will most likely create a bottle neck at the end. The only way i see it making more over the stock tubular header would be if there using a merge collector. Does anybody know the primary diameter.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (vapor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vapor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
no need to thank me dude, it gets sickening to hear the same song by people that obviously don't know what they're talking about.
A friend brought a good point about the s2000 that applies to all other car manufactuers that limit hp output within their model lineups to prevent stealing sales from the upper model. If the s2000 made more power than it did out of the box, it would limit NSX sales (not like they sold well last year and this year anyways). But the point remains true.
I have a goal: to see if I can make 260whp out of a stock longblock F20C, I know that is very likely from a F22, but there is still A LOT of development room for our cars. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, some of us DO know. And if you think you can magically bolt on more than about 10-15hp onto an S2000 with exhaust, headers and cold air intakes, you are fooling yourself. Yes, I do also believe that there is the possibility to make more power. And, I also think you will be able to get 260rwhp N/A from your car but it is going to take a hell of a lot more than bolt ons to do it.
no need to thank me dude, it gets sickening to hear the same song by people that obviously don't know what they're talking about.
A friend brought a good point about the s2000 that applies to all other car manufactuers that limit hp output within their model lineups to prevent stealing sales from the upper model. If the s2000 made more power than it did out of the box, it would limit NSX sales (not like they sold well last year and this year anyways). But the point remains true.
I have a goal: to see if I can make 260whp out of a stock longblock F20C, I know that is very likely from a F22, but there is still A LOT of development room for our cars. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, some of us DO know. And if you think you can magically bolt on more than about 10-15hp onto an S2000 with exhaust, headers and cold air intakes, you are fooling yourself. Yes, I do also believe that there is the possibility to make more power. And, I also think you will be able to get 260rwhp N/A from your car but it is going to take a hell of a lot more than bolt ons to do it.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (GChambers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GChambers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Actually, some of us DO know. And if you think you can magically bolt on more than about 10-15hp onto an S2000 with exhaust, headers and cold air intakes, you are fooling yourself. Yes, I do also believe that there is the possibility to make more power. And, I also think you will be able to get 260rwhp N/A from your car but it is going to take a hell of a lot more than bolt ons to do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't forget about the aem ems
but yeah back on topic! anyone have this header?
Actually, some of us DO know. And if you think you can magically bolt on more than about 10-15hp onto an S2000 with exhaust, headers and cold air intakes, you are fooling yourself. Yes, I do also believe that there is the possibility to make more power. And, I also think you will be able to get 260rwhp N/A from your car but it is going to take a hell of a lot more than bolt ons to do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't forget about the aem ems
but yeah back on topic! anyone have this header?
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (dkim48)
Its an illusion.The collector is 2".The same size as a B-series collector.The collector
has to be that size to make the most power.And remember only ONE cylinder fires
at a time.Not all four.If the header is correct it doesn't need to be much bigger than the primaries. Pure stock -190.4 whp
with header-199.6 whp
has to be that size to make the most power.And remember only ONE cylinder fires
at a time.Not all four.If the header is correct it doesn't need to be much bigger than the primaries. Pure stock -190.4 whp
with header-199.6 whp
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It is 1 3/4 primaries to a MERGE collector,2" collector exit out to 2 1/2.And bolts
to stock exhaust.Which is not very good.Gained 10 hp with stock exhaust OFF.And my scanner is busted or I would post it.
to stock exhaust.Which is not very good.Gained 10 hp with stock exhaust OFF.And my scanner is busted or I would post it.
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (RMF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GChambers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The car comes stock with a tubular header. The only real reason to get an aftermarket header is if you are trying to save weight or if you go F/I. Don't expect significant gains with any header.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i also say not true...certain headers do provide good gains...my buddy has a plot of a j's header vs mugen header and gained 8.3 whp from it...do a research on s2ki.com in the s2000talk threads and u can see for yourself...the only header i can see not gaining sufficient gains are the dcsport header..some have plots of them losing power instead of gaining...i guess u pay for what u get
i also say not true...certain headers do provide good gains...my buddy has a plot of a j's header vs mugen header and gained 8.3 whp from it...do a research on s2ki.com in the s2000talk threads and u can see for yourself...the only header i can see not gaining sufficient gains are the dcsport header..some have plots of them losing power instead of gaining...i guess u pay for what u get
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Re: Import Power House Header?? Anyone ever use it? (RMF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RMF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is 1 3/4 primaries to a MERGE collector,2" collector exit out to 2 1/2.And bolts
to stock exhaust.Which is not very good.Gained 10 hp with stock exhaust OFF.And my scanner is busted or I would post it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
stock exhaust off meaning open header? or aftermarket exhaust?
to stock exhaust.Which is not very good.Gained 10 hp with stock exhaust OFF.And my scanner is busted or I would post it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
stock exhaust off meaning open header? or aftermarket exhaust?