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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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What do all of you use to notch and Bend your tubes for like a cage and such?
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Well i dont have a bender, but i picked up a notcher from Harbor Freight. Not the greatest peice but works.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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mandrel bender for bending up to 2" DOM , with a bandsaw and grinder for the fishmounts.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Bending - Non-hydraulic die bender

Notching - Either holesaw/table mounted notcher, or when possible, holesaw on the mill, or concurrant size end mill. And a die grinder/6 hours for those hard joints
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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To bend I use a Pro Tools 105HD bender, and to notch I have a Harbor Frieght 60° tubing notcher I put in my drill press, it has made 100's of notches and still works great!
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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you can buy a roll cage or a roll bar allready mandrell bent.

as for the notches you can buy a notcher and use a hole saw the same size as the OD of the tubing you are using. 98ctr
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Where could I get a cheap mandrel bender for my garage something to make a cage with?
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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The benders you see for rollcages are not true mandrel benders, a true mandrel bender will set you back over $10k easily. The cheapest tubing bender ive seen would be the JD2 Model 3, around $300, check ebay, you might score a used one. Although the dies alone are $200 each.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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just buy the cage kit from like http://www.artmorrison.com they have good prices. 98ctr
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98ctr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just buy the cage kit from like http://www.artmorrison.com they have good prices. 98ctr</TD></TR></TABLE>

cheap pre-made stuff fits like , well , cheap pre-made stuff.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

cheap pre-made stuff fits like , well , cheap pre-made stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ha ha, I guess you don't know who "art morrison" is. they make some of the best tube chasie assemblies. here is a pic of my cage that I put in last week. 98ctr





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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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98 CTR did you have to notch it out or was everything prenotched and fitted ?
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

cheap pre-made stuff fits like , well , cheap pre-made stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Every art morrison ive seen installed fits fine...but i guess since you make cages competition is natural
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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98ctr how many point cage is that and how much was it? Chromolly?
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goullish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bending - Non-hydraulic die bender

Notching - Either holesaw/table mounted notcher, or when possible, holesaw on the mill, or concurrant size end mill. And a die grinder/6 hours for those hard joints</TD></TR></TABLE>


that be the way i use myself
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 03:57 AM
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Any benders you reccomend? I dont want to use a pre fabbed kit, That takes all the fun out of it
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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http://www.pro-tools.com the 105 HD bender kicks ***!
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Karterguy13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where could I get a cheap mandrel bender for my garage something to make a cage with?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmckeone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The benders you see for rollcages are not true mandrel benders, a true mandrel bender will set you back over $10k easily. The cheapest tubing bender ive seen would be the JD2 Model 3, around $300, check ebay, you might score a used one. Although the dies alone are $200 each.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't want a true mandrel bend for a roll cage anyways, it is not safe. A true mandrel bend will change the thickness of the metal for purposes of flow. Which is why they're used in exhaust and intake and not safe at all for structural support. The structure bending is done by rolling the pipe around a die which keeps it more circular, but does get smaller. A true mandrel has the outer die and an inner die which keeps the pipe the same size but weakening it.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmckeone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.pro-tools.com the 105 HD bender kicks ***!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yheaaaaa. but worth almost as much as my left nut...

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98ctr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

here is a pic of my cage that I put in last week. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats not a cage , thats a ROLLBAR.

and like I said , it fits like a generic pre-made one at that.

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Karterguy13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">98ctr how many point cage is that and how much was it? Chromolly?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its a 6 point, mild steel that cost me $225 for the kit. 98ctr
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">98 CTR did you have to notch it out or was everything prenotched and fitted ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

everything was notched on one side, the other side I have to cut to my exact lenght and notch the other side. 98ctr
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thats not a cage , thats a ROLLBAR.

and like I said , it fits like a generic pre-made one at that.

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ok ok, its a "rollbar" not a "roll cage" but I dont' see nothing wrong with the fitting, especially for that price.
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