I'm leaniing toward the prelude but love the GSR and si looks better. I don't plan to go turbo, I plan on buying in a week and have been comparing these cars for the longest time. Is the weight issue on the prelude really all that bad? Need input.

 

if you think the GSR and a ******* civic looks better then a lude then something is wrong with you.

 

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Can I get an AMEN??

 

Want to know the reason I got a 1998 Prelude vs an Si or GS-R?

One word: <FONT SIZE="4">THEFT</FONT>

GS-Rs and Sis are always getting stolen. 1997+ preludes have an imobilizer built in which makes them harder to steal. Plus, many of the Prelude parts aren't compatible with Civics/Integras. They just don't get stolen as much.

I had a 1998 Civci EX that got jacked. I didn't even have a swap! After that, I decided I wanted to be able to sleep at night again, and got something not as desirable by thieves. Granted, I know any car can be stolen, but take a look around in the Integra/Type R/Civic forums and you'll see that theft is a very big problem.

 

i would much rather have the prelude because it's faster than both, and there's not as many of them around. integra's and civics are a dime a dozen.

 

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weight isn't that bad. but what are you going to do with this car?

for cruising/dd it's great. though, as hard as it is to believe, the EK and DC2 have way more usable interior space.

for drag racing it sucks.

for auto-x it's not the greatest.

for circuit racing it's not proven but can be competitive.

 

On a more serious note ..........

I was in the same boat but I did not really include the Si in the mix for my decision. B16's are for pussies and light as **** EF hatches.

It really came down to what was available. I could only find automatic Preludes and super high mileage GS-r's in my price range in my searching.

I finally found a GS-R for just a tad more than I was willing to spend, and a Prelude 5-spd with just a few more miles than I was looking for. I called about the GS-R, and it was getting inspected and he told me to call the next day to schedule a time to see it. I called the next day, and he siad he had a deposit on it already ......... unreal ........

So I went to see the Prelude. And the price was right, it was in great shape even with higher mileage than I wanted. So I sold the Suby and bought the Lude .....

After being an Integra guy, that is what I really wanted. But the Prelude was a close second behing it, and because of availability, the Lude won out. The Integra is much lighter, and I know quite well how to mod it, and how to get the best out of it all motor (after owning and racing the R version). But I like the styling of both, and the "big block" H22 really appealed to me.

So here I am ...........

 

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weight isn't that bad. but what are you going to do with this car?

for cruising/dd it's great. though, as hard as it is to believe, the EK and DC2 have way more usable interior space.

for drag racing it sucks.

for auto-x it's not the greatest.

for circuit racing it's not proven but can be competitive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with you on the interior space thing.

However, I disagree with you on the racing points.

I don't think Ludes suck any worse than a GS-R or Si - it just depends on how much cash you're willing to put into it. Granted, Ludes are heavier.

I know several auto-xers that'd disagree with you on the auto-x point, too. Again, it depends on how much cash you're willing to put into it to be competitive.

There are also several fifth-gens that compete in road racing. Then again, I'm not sure what you man by "proven."

 

not necessarily .... my 98 lude was bagged up ..

but then i got another one and put a turbo.... anything under 2L is gay! def go with the h22

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sushiboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with you on the interior space thing.

However, I disagree with you on the racing points.

I don't think Ludes suck any worse than a GS-R or Si - it just depends on how much cash you're willing to put into it. Granted, Ludes are heavier.

I know several auto-xers that'd disagree with you on the auto-x point, too. Again, it depends on how much cash you're willing to put into it to be competitive.

There are also several fifth-gens that compete in road racing. Then again, I'm not sure what you man by "proven." </TD></TR></TABLE>

well, the 300 lb weight advantage the GSR or Si has makes all the difference in the less prepared classes when it comes to auto-x, and handling in general.

but the way i see it, the problem with the 5th gen prelude is classing. It's not necessarily a slow car, but it's outgunned in all of the usual classes: DS, STS, STX, DSP, SM, etc. There really isn't a place for the bb6 to be competitive, at least on the national level. (locally i'm sure there are plenty of winning ludes)

the 4th gen may be more competitive in GS, i'm waiting to see if anyone seriously campaigns one next year.

what i mean by proven is that the chassis hasn't been fully developed by race teams--there's the lockwood WC lude, Corey's H1 4th gen, and a couple of other guys running ITS and H2. personally, I think the bb1/bb6 is a decent chassis to road race, and that the h22 is a solid motor to do it with, but there simply aren't enough on track to be sure just how these cars measure up to the class overdogs in ITS, H2/H1, whereever else ludes race.

My car will eventually become an H2 HC car, which means i have faith in my idea that the lude would make a fine circuit racer--but it's kind of going out on a limb to make it work. road racing a CRX, EK si, or DC2-r has a lot less risk since people have made alot of the mistakes and figured out the solutions for them.

 

Damn, you two are going off on tangents with the autoXing/tracking idea. How much do you want to bet that he has never even participated in an autoX or track event??? I bet he just wants a normal daily driver.

I chose the Prelude over the integra/civic because the Prelude is different when it comes to the idea of a "Honda". It has a peppy motor, has torque, and it a GREAT performing car. It is different too. The Prelude, in my mind, is the more mature car of the three.

I have fun daily driving, autoX, and track my Prelude on a regular basis. It is VERY capable car. I feel different driving it too.

 

The si is a piece of poo compared to a 5th gen lude. GSR's are nice, I test drove a bunch of them and they are quick.....the thing is, if your thinking about a GSR, you might as well go with a type R. Type R's are more comparable to SH's than an si or GSR. I like the SH as it has more power, better suspension (compared to the si, maybe not the GSR), and the interior is nicer, more factory bling

 

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Well, he asked about weight, and weight is a factor in racing; not much of a deal for daily driving.

 

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Can I get an AMEN?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

amen.

if you don't plan on hitting the track or the strip every other weekend and going through weight-reduction and force induction to get your 1/4 mile lower, if you're not worried about the weight to that degree in the first place, get the lude.

without knowing what your specific goals are for the car, its hard to say which one is best suited for you - but i'd take the lude over the other two.

 

Prelude !! ..... your asking this in a prelude thread so most likely people are gonna say get the prelude.

 

prelude, if you want the nicest stock daily driver.

 

IMHO I think the front headlights on the prelude is teh ugliest thing in the world (the Integra bubble headlight don't have much to brag about I admit) but I love the rear end of teh prelude and teh bodyline of the integra.

Looks aside, I don't plan on racing this on the track in anyway. I am not turboing the car either, going all motor. Also daily driver.

The only time I will race is when someone revving at me or when me and my buddies take out the car to race, otherwise I want the speed when I need it. (I know its strange, but I'm the one who wants my car to be fast so that when I need it it will be there).

The reason why the ITR is not included in this is because of the THEFT (i had a dream that I own one, and in the dream I was paranoid and watching the car all night only to have it stolen) lol

The only reason why I would even consider teh SI is because the 99-00 Electron blue one is looks nice.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by John73900 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMHO I think the front headlights on the prelude is teh ugliest thing in the world (the Integra bubble headlight don't have much to brag about I admit) but I love the rear end of teh prelude and teh bodyline of the integra.

The only reason why I would even consider teh SI is because the 99-00 Electron blue one is looks nice. </TD></TR></TABLE>

spend money on a blackhoused HID projector retrofit (since you aren't going to do big things with the engine anyway)

and get an electron blue 01 lude, they look better than the SI

oh, and btw if you haven't heard it already, or in case you were tempted by the low prices and easy to find Sportshifts, STAY AWAY FROM THE AUTO.

 

drive them all and make up your own mind, good luck