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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
ricky i need some help with my Ls motor and your the ls king i can't decide between a single manifold or itb's i am going to be running stage 3 crane cam withh 3 angle vavle job and port and polish with 12:1 compession
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Re: ls ITB (StyleTEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StyleTEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cams with that lift/duration are going to require something more than just a skunk2 manifold (which is essentially an ITR mani copy).</TD></TR></TABLE>Yea your right listen to this guy since he knows everything.
I own a set of ITB's DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY. You dont need anything bigger then a Type-R style im.. I've tryed alot of things and the a Type-r style seems to work best.
I own a set of ITB's DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY. You dont need anything bigger then a Type-R style im.. I've tryed alot of things and the a Type-r style seems to work best.
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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecallmotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I own a set of ITB's DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY. You dont need anything bigger then a Type-R style im.. I've tryed alot of things and the a Type-r style seems to work best.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a bold statement considering the number of different factors that play a part in what would be an engines optimal induction system. And to state that a single design is superior to all others based solely upon your own personal experience is ignorant. I've seen a lot of situations where the Type R style intake manifold did work out to the the most effective option within reason. Then again I've seen a lot of situations where the Type R style intake manifold did indeed take a back seat to a set of well designed ITB's.
That's a bold statement considering the number of different factors that play a part in what would be an engines optimal induction system. And to state that a single design is superior to all others based solely upon your own personal experience is ignorant. I've seen a lot of situations where the Type R style intake manifold did work out to the the most effective option within reason. Then again I've seen a lot of situations where the Type R style intake manifold did indeed take a back seat to a set of well designed ITB's.
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Re: ls ITB (Kendall)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's a bold statement considering the number of different factors that play a part in what would be an engines optimal induction system. And to state that a single design is superior to all others based solely upon your own personal experience is ignorant. I've seen a lot of situations where the Type R style intake manifold did work out to the the most effective option within reason. Then again I've seen a lot of situations where the Type R style intake manifold did indeed take a back seat to a set of well designed ITB's. </TD></TR></TABLE>I guess your name is Rick also because I tought that he was asking me since my name is RICK and all. Plus I had had the same set up WITH ITB's and didnt notice a big difference not to warant a $2000 spend. Well I guess that my TWM's wasnt designed well enough. So when you find a set that work let me know.
It seems that I'm the only one that is speaking from exsperence here.
Modified by nonvtecallmotor at 2:15 AM 1/10/2005
That's a bold statement considering the number of different factors that play a part in what would be an engines optimal induction system. And to state that a single design is superior to all others based solely upon your own personal experience is ignorant. I've seen a lot of situations where the Type R style intake manifold did work out to the the most effective option within reason. Then again I've seen a lot of situations where the Type R style intake manifold did indeed take a back seat to a set of well designed ITB's. </TD></TR></TABLE>I guess your name is Rick also because I tought that he was asking me since my name is RICK and all. Plus I had had the same set up WITH ITB's and didnt notice a big difference not to warant a $2000 spend. Well I guess that my TWM's wasnt designed well enough. So when you find a set that work let me know.
It seems that I'm the only one that is speaking from exsperence here.
Modified by nonvtecallmotor at 2:15 AM 1/10/2005
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Re: ls ITB (StyleTEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StyleTEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One size fits all eh?
All ITB's are the same also?
sweet, good to know
</TD></TR></TABLE>Just take advice from him because hes so fast . Maybe after the 3rd or 4th set you may find one that will net you over a few hp gain.
All ITB's are the same also?
sweet, good to know
</TD></TR></TABLE>Just take advice from him because hes so fast . Maybe after the 3rd or 4th set you may find one that will net you over a few hp gain.
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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecallmotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess your name is Rick also because I tought that he was asking me since my name is RICK and all. Plus I had had the same set up WITH ITB's and didnt notice a big difference not to warant a $2000 spend. Well I guess that my TWM's wasnt designed well enough. So when you find a set that work let me know.
It seems that I'm the only one that is speaking from exsperence here.
Modified by nonvtecallmotor at 2:15 AM 1/10/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't think i would be hatin on kendall, that dudes been in the game for a long time , and since i'm one of the guys he sold itb's to (with an ls) i can tell you from exp. that they will improve performance more so than an intake manifold if you have the right setup , i saw about a 7-10 hp increase on several runs ---however the power was higher up in the rpm range , and it only cost me 150 for the itb's from him , and 300 to fab the manifold -350 for tuning so thats about 800 bucs for the gain , .... i don't think that is a very bad investment , .... kinda like buying a top notch header or exhaust , ... so they can be better/make more power -it pretty much comes down to the setup and the tuner !!!!!!!!
Modified by lsed-eg at 8:03 AM 1/10/2005
It seems that I'm the only one that is speaking from exsperence here.
Modified by nonvtecallmotor at 2:15 AM 1/10/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't think i would be hatin on kendall, that dudes been in the game for a long time , and since i'm one of the guys he sold itb's to (with an ls) i can tell you from exp. that they will improve performance more so than an intake manifold if you have the right setup , i saw about a 7-10 hp increase on several runs ---however the power was higher up in the rpm range , and it only cost me 150 for the itb's from him , and 300 to fab the manifold -350 for tuning so thats about 800 bucs for the gain , .... i don't think that is a very bad investment , .... kinda like buying a top notch header or exhaust , ... so they can be better/make more power -it pretty much comes down to the setup and the tuner !!!!!!!!
Modified by lsed-eg at 8:03 AM 1/10/2005
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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecallmotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just take advice from him because hes so fast . Maybe after the 3rd or 4th set you may find one that will net you over a few hp gain.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, maybe the reason you had to try so many combinations is because you never bothered to do the math and figure out what exactly is needed for your setup.
Its baffling that you still don't understand that every setup requires different things. All your posts are blanket statements like "You don't need to clay" and "Always use the Skunk2". Its a dead giveaway that you are simply bankrolling someone else to build your engines.
Which is cool, if thats how one wants to do it more power too them. But coming on a message board and giving bad advice and using the motor that someone else planned as "proof" is pretty shitty.
TWM do make good ITBs in general. But its not going to be the best for every setup. The length of the runners, the diameter of the throttle plates, how much it tapers, the injector location, etc, etc, etc
Are all going to effect where the powerband is, and what motor charectoristics it is going to work best with. Because the TWM were not right for your setup, does not mean that no ITBs will produce as much power as a manifold.
. Maybe after the 3rd or 4th set you may find one that will net you over a few hp gain.</TD></TR></TABLE>lol, maybe the reason you had to try so many combinations is because you never bothered to do the math and figure out what exactly is needed for your setup.
Its baffling that you still don't understand that every setup requires different things. All your posts are blanket statements like "You don't need to clay" and "Always use the Skunk2". Its a dead giveaway that you are simply bankrolling someone else to build your engines.
Which is cool, if thats how one wants to do it more power too them. But coming on a message board and giving bad advice and using the motor that someone else planned as "proof" is pretty shitty.
TWM do make good ITBs in general. But its not going to be the best for every setup. The length of the runners, the diameter of the throttle plates, how much it tapers, the injector location, etc, etc, etc
Are all going to effect where the powerband is, and what motor charectoristics it is going to work best with. Because the TWM were not right for your setup, does not mean that no ITBs will produce as much power as a manifold.
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Re: ls ITB (StyleTEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StyleTEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lol, maybe the reason you had to try so many combinations is because you never bothered to do the math and figure out what exactly is needed for your setup.
Its baffling that you still don't understand that every setup requires different things. All your posts are blanket statements like "You don't need to clay" and "Always use the Skunk2". Its a dead giveaway that you are simply bankrolling someone else to build your engines.
Which is cool, if thats how one wants to do it more power too them. But coming on a message board and giving bad advice and using the motor that someone else planned as "proof" is pretty shitty.
TWM do make good ITBs in general. But its not going to be the best for every setup. The length of the runners, the diameter of the throttle plates, how much it tapers, the injector location, etc, etc, etc
Are all going to effect where the powerband is, and what motor charectoristics it is going to work best with. Because the TWM were not right for your setup, does not mean that no ITBs will produce as much power as a manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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lol, maybe the reason you had to try so many combinations is because you never bothered to do the math and figure out what exactly is needed for your setup.
Its baffling that you still don't understand that every setup requires different things. All your posts are blanket statements like "You don't need to clay" and "Always use the Skunk2". Its a dead giveaway that you are simply bankrolling someone else to build your engines.
Which is cool, if thats how one wants to do it more power too them. But coming on a message board and giving bad advice and using the motor that someone else planned as "proof" is pretty shitty.
TWM do make good ITBs in general. But its not going to be the best for every setup. The length of the runners, the diameter of the throttle plates, how much it tapers, the injector location, etc, etc, etc
Are all going to effect where the powerband is, and what motor charectoristics it is going to work best with. Because the TWM were not right for your setup, does not mean that no ITBs will produce as much power as a manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: ls ITB (StyleTEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StyleTEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lol, maybe the reason you had to try so many combinations is because you never bothered to do the math and figure out what exactly is needed for your setup.
Its baffling that you still don't understand that every setup requires different things. All your posts are blanket statements like "You don't need to clay" and "Always use the Skunk2". Its a dead giveaway that you are simply bankrolling someone else to build your engines.
Which is cool, if thats how one wants to do it more power too them. But coming on a message board and giving bad advice and using the motor that someone else planned as "proof" is pretty shitty.
TWM do make good ITBs in general. But its not going to be the best for every setup. The length of the runners, the diameter of the throttle plates, how much it tapers, the injector location, etc, etc, etc
Are all going to effect where the powerband is, and what motor charectoristics it is going to work best with. Because the TWM were not right for your setup, does not mean that no ITBs will produce as much power as a manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>Hey dipshit can you ******* read he gives his you his set up you dumb **** just read it. His set up will not make the upper rpm hp to use a bigger intake. I never said to use a Type-R style on every engine configuration. Never did I say that ITB's where not good I said Its not going to benifit his set up. That motor will not make a whole lot of top end power it will make great power from 4500-8000 no mater what intake he uses. You may move the power band around but he will gain the best all around power with a Type-R style. He may put ITB's on it and pick up 5 hp up top but lose 15 hp everywhere else.
Since you seem to know so ******* much what kind of intake should he use?
No one planned my set up but me I've been running NONVTEC motor for a long time now. I've done things that people said couldnt be done. I've shown little ***** like you that a NONVTEC set up can run with the vtec set up. The only thing that I didnt do was the machine work on my engine.
Oh yea since you know more then I do what's your car run?
PS Is your name Rick? If not I guess that he wasnt asking to you then so keep your 2 cents to your self. Didnt your mother teach you to speak when only spoken to.
lol, maybe the reason you had to try so many combinations is because you never bothered to do the math and figure out what exactly is needed for your setup.
Its baffling that you still don't understand that every setup requires different things. All your posts are blanket statements like "You don't need to clay" and "Always use the Skunk2". Its a dead giveaway that you are simply bankrolling someone else to build your engines.
Which is cool, if thats how one wants to do it more power too them. But coming on a message board and giving bad advice and using the motor that someone else planned as "proof" is pretty shitty.
TWM do make good ITBs in general. But its not going to be the best for every setup. The length of the runners, the diameter of the throttle plates, how much it tapers, the injector location, etc, etc, etc
Are all going to effect where the powerband is, and what motor charectoristics it is going to work best with. Because the TWM were not right for your setup, does not mean that no ITBs will produce as much power as a manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>Hey dipshit can you ******* read he gives his you his set up you dumb **** just read it. His set up will not make the upper rpm hp to use a bigger intake. I never said to use a Type-R style on every engine configuration. Never did I say that ITB's where not good I said Its not going to benifit his set up. That motor will not make a whole lot of top end power it will make great power from 4500-8000 no mater what intake he uses. You may move the power band around but he will gain the best all around power with a Type-R style. He may put ITB's on it and pick up 5 hp up top but lose 15 hp everywhere else.
Since you seem to know so ******* much what kind of intake should he use?
No one planned my set up but me I've been running NONVTEC motor for a long time now. I've done things that people said couldnt be done. I've shown little ***** like you that a NONVTEC set up can run with the vtec set up. The only thing that I didnt do was the machine work on my engine.
Oh yea since you know more then I do what's your car run?
PS Is your name Rick? If not I guess that he wasnt asking to you then so keep your 2 cents to your self. Didnt your mother teach you to speak when only spoken to.
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Re: ls ITB (lsed-eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsed-eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
don't think i would be hatin on kendall, that dudes been in the game for a long time , and since i'm one of the guys he sold itb's to (with an ls) i can tell you from exp. that they will improve performance more so than an intake manifold if you have the right setup , i saw about a 7-10 hp increase on several runs ---however the power was higher up in the rpm range , and it only cost me 150 for the itb's from him , and 300 to fab the manifold -350 for tuning so thats about 800 bucs for the gain , .... i don't think that is a very bad investment , .... kinda like buying a top notch header or exhaust , ... so they can be better/make more power -it pretty much comes down to the setup and the tuner !!!!!!!!
Modified by lsed-eg at 8:03 AM 1/10/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>What kind of power did it make? You might of seen 7-10 hp up top and lost 20hp below that. Just because your car makes more top end power does not mean that your car will run any better at the track. I guess its ok if you care about being a dyno queen but I like to see my numbers at the track. A few years back I installed a DC ITR JDM header on my car the car ran 2 tenths and 3 MPH faster but dynoed 3hp less over the DC 4-2-1 header. So the dyno #'s doesnt mean that it helps all the time.
don't think i would be hatin on kendall, that dudes been in the game for a long time , and since i'm one of the guys he sold itb's to (with an ls) i can tell you from exp. that they will improve performance more so than an intake manifold if you have the right setup , i saw about a 7-10 hp increase on several runs ---however the power was higher up in the rpm range , and it only cost me 150 for the itb's from him , and 300 to fab the manifold -350 for tuning so thats about 800 bucs for the gain , .... i don't think that is a very bad investment , .... kinda like buying a top notch header or exhaust , ... so they can be better/make more power -it pretty much comes down to the setup and the tuner !!!!!!!!
Modified by lsed-eg at 8:03 AM 1/10/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>What kind of power did it make? You might of seen 7-10 hp up top and lost 20hp below that. Just because your car makes more top end power does not mean that your car will run any better at the track. I guess its ok if you care about being a dyno queen but I like to see my numbers at the track. A few years back I installed a DC ITR JDM header on my car the car ran 2 tenths and 3 MPH faster but dynoed 3hp less over the DC 4-2-1 header. So the dyno #'s doesnt mean that it helps all the time.
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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
Insults eh? Gotta tell you they don't make your poor advice seem any better.
If you reread my first post you will see I stated that an ITR style IM is too small for an engine running more aggressive cams and 12:1 CR vs 10.6:1.
You also should read up on ITB's, as they tend to produce MORE midrange and less top end than a closed plenum setup.
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I never said to use a Type-R style on every engine configuration. Never did I say that ITB's where not good I said Its not going to benifit his set up.
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Really?
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I own a set of ITB's DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY. You dont need anything bigger then a Type-R style im.. I've tryed alot of things and the a Type-r style seems to work best.
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You own "a set" of ITBs, and no one should waste their money.
You have tried a lot of things and type-r works best.
sounds like you said both of those things
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That motor will not make a whole lot of top end power it will make great power from 4500-8000 no mater what intake he uses.
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Your kidding right? You don't think an IM doesn't SERIOUSLY effect torque/hp? It pains me to read stuff like this.
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Since you seem to know so ******* much what kind of intake should he use?
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There are several different options, ITBs being one. If he were to actually spec out the runner length and diameter to get the 2nd order harmonic to occur in his powerband, and to his peak HP, its easy to get a very strong powerband at the expense of a few peak HP when compaired to a good plenum setup.
Endyn also does a great job of porting IM's for specific applications.
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Oh yea since you know more then I do what's your car run?
PS Is your name Rick? If not I guess that he wasnt asking to you then so keep your 2 cents to your self. Didnt your mother teach you to speak when only spoken to.
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It was a question posted on a public forum, if he only wanted your advice he should have PMed you. Getting pissed because I don't want to see someone getting poor results because he got bad advice.
My car isn't a drag car, its a track car. Even beyond that, I have other things to spend my money on like a mortgage. Knoweldge goes way beyond what you have personally done.
But since you want to bring it up, like in the previous thread I made more power with less done than two of your non-vtec setups. Save the excuses you posted last time.
If you reread my first post you will see I stated that an ITR style IM is too small for an engine running more aggressive cams and 12:1 CR vs 10.6:1.
You also should read up on ITB's, as they tend to produce MORE midrange and less top end than a closed plenum setup.
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I never said to use a Type-R style on every engine configuration. Never did I say that ITB's where not good I said Its not going to benifit his set up.
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Really?
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I own a set of ITB's DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY. You dont need anything bigger then a Type-R style im.. I've tryed alot of things and the a Type-r style seems to work best.
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You own "a set" of ITBs, and no one should waste their money.
You have tried a lot of things and type-r works best.
sounds like you said both of those things
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That motor will not make a whole lot of top end power it will make great power from 4500-8000 no mater what intake he uses.
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Your kidding right? You don't think an IM doesn't SERIOUSLY effect torque/hp? It pains me to read stuff like this.
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Since you seem to know so ******* much what kind of intake should he use?
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There are several different options, ITBs being one. If he were to actually spec out the runner length and diameter to get the 2nd order harmonic to occur in his powerband, and to his peak HP, its easy to get a very strong powerband at the expense of a few peak HP when compaired to a good plenum setup.
Endyn also does a great job of porting IM's for specific applications.
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Oh yea since you know more then I do what's your car run?
PS Is your name Rick? If not I guess that he wasnt asking to you then so keep your 2 cents to your self. Didnt your mother teach you to speak when only spoken to.
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It was a question posted on a public forum, if he only wanted your advice he should have PMed you. Getting pissed because I don't want to see someone getting poor results because he got bad advice.
My car isn't a drag car, its a track car. Even beyond that, I have other things to spend my money on like a mortgage. Knoweldge goes way beyond what you have personally done.
But since you want to bring it up, like in the previous thread I made more power with less done than two of your non-vtec setups. Save the excuses you posted last time.
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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
The best 2.0 LS we did, with A Extrude Honed Skunk 2 manifold and type "R" throttle was 248 BHP. The best with a set of Jenvey ITB's 272 BHP. Both had 405 Crowers. The Jenvey's had a much better power curve.
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Re: ls ITB (StyleTEG)
YOU'VE NEVER MADE MORE POWER THEN I. So wheres your proof that other intakes will work better on his set up have you ever built it or one like it? Thats right you dont have any kind of proof. All that you can do is post your opinion with no facts. Your disagreeing with me with out a leg to stand on. You have never done a set up REMOTELY to his so how can you say that Im wrong, When Ive done his set up before.
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Re: ls ITB (DonF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The best 2.0 LS we did, with A Extrude Honed Skunk 2 manifold and type "R" throttle was 248 BHP. The best with a set of Jenvey ITB's 272 BHP. Both had 405 Crowers. The Jenvey's had a much better power curve.</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes thats with a big motor with a big set of cams. Yes I agree that with a 2.0 with big cams and high compression ITB's are the way to go, but not on a 1.8 street car.
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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
Why not? I have done Webers, Mikuni's, Delorto's, ITB's, and plenum intakes on street cars. If you know how to tune or match the correct size, I will take carbs or ITB's any day.
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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecallmotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes thats with a big motor with a big set of cams. Yes I agree that with a 2.0 with big cams and high compression ITB's are the way to go, but not on a 1.8 street car.</TD></TR></TABLE>....
are you kidding me .......
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v-6 hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ricky i need some help with my Ls motor and your the ls king i can't decide between a single manifold or itb's i am going to be running stage 3 crane cam withh 3 angle vavle job and port and polish with 12:1 compession</TD></TR></TABLE>
so then nonvtecallmotor i guess stg 3 cams , and 12.1 comp. just isn't enough huh?......................
considering i have crans 12's and 11.5.1 comp. and my gains were between 4700 and 6200 then there isn't a need for itb's right .... oh i almost forgot that my prev. numbers were on the same build with a s2 manifold ... so i guess there relly was no purpose for me to put the itb's on thn right ?????
listen up mr. wizard ... your not one of the only ones with itb's on an ls. , more so you have no idea what your talking about and most importantly ...stop whoring out other peoples useful posts with your ignorance .... it all come down to the setup and the tuner .... and withthe cams he has and the comp. ...... he will see good gains midrange and top end .... oh and since it's an ls ... i don't really think bottom end is a prob...
are you kidding me .......
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v-6 hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ricky i need some help with my Ls motor and your the ls king i can't decide between a single manifold or itb's i am going to be running stage 3 crane cam withh 3 angle vavle job and port and polish with 12:1 compession</TD></TR></TABLE>
so then nonvtecallmotor i guess stg 3 cams , and 12.1 comp. just isn't enough huh?......................
considering i have crans 12's and 11.5.1 comp. and my gains were between 4700 and 6200 then there isn't a need for itb's right .... oh i almost forgot that my prev. numbers were on the same build with a s2 manifold ... so i guess there relly was no purpose for me to put the itb's on thn right ?????
listen up mr. wizard ... your not one of the only ones with itb's on an ls. , more so you have no idea what your talking about and most importantly ...stop whoring out other peoples useful posts with your ignorance .... it all come down to the setup and the tuner .... and withthe cams he has and the comp. ...... he will see good gains midrange and top end .... oh and since it's an ls ... i don't really think bottom end is a prob...
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Re: ls ITB (nonvtecallmotor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecallmotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">YOU'VE NEVER MADE MORE POWER THEN I. So wheres your proof that other intakes will work better on his set up have you ever built it or one like it? Thats right you dont have any kind of proof. All that you can do is post your opinion with no facts. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Its called knowing and understanding the physics of how engines work and create power.
You think engine companies go by trial and error to make power? You think they just slap a bunch of random parts together? Of course not, its all planned out using math/physics/fluid dynamics.
You can use the same formulas/methods to find out what would and wouldn't work on an engine.
The more you post, the more obvious it gets how little you really know.
Its called knowing and understanding the physics of how engines work and create power.
You think engine companies go by trial and error to make power? You think they just slap a bunch of random parts together? Of course not, its all planned out using math/physics/fluid dynamics.
You can use the same formulas/methods to find out what would and wouldn't work on an engine.
The more you post, the more obvious it gets how little you really know.
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From: md, usa
Re: ls ITB (StyleTEG)
hey since u all know LS so well i thought ide ask a question.
could i just run crower 404's, valvetrain, and ctr pistons untuned on a ls with just i/h/e?
i kno ide have to run 93 octane and all. what else would i have to get to run this setup and it be reliable.
could i just run crower 404's, valvetrain, and ctr pistons untuned on a ls with just i/h/e?
i kno ide have to run 93 octane and all. what else would i have to get to run this setup and it be reliable.