If port/polish is not in my future on my JDM B16A, is it worth it to change the intake manifold and throttle body? I was thinking about going with a Skunk2 or ITR intake manifold and a ITR throttle body to replace my stock items. Thanks.

 

if you got extra money to blow,hehe..i got a skunk2 on my b16 and it took some minor modifications to install...good luck

 

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....then it's not really worth it?

 

Yes it is worth it forsure. Motor is essentially a vacuum, and any way you can get it to breathe quicker, and easier the more power it will make. Wether you port n polish, boost, or keep it how it is. It is one of the easiest, least expensive, and you get a lot of bang for your buck with the aebs intake manifold as well. Mine only costs 126 bucks, and makes more power than itr or skunk2 on dyno tests that have been on here. Quality is kind of low, but function over fashion. Good luck on your build.

Throttle body you can search maxbore throttle body on here, and he did an awsome job. 100 bucks. Can't beat that either. Happy revving

I dont have a really good pic of the throttle body, but here is the aebs intake mani on my 00 jdm itr motor. With that, ported itr 70mm throttle body, and an exedy flywheel. the motor revs as fast as i could ever ask it to. Its very responsive for being a non itb'd car.

 

Thanks. My concern was that if I didn't go with a port/polish on my head that the holes for the runners on an aftermarket intake manifold wouldn't quite match up (square peg into a round whole, for a lack of a better way to say it) and all of the extra air getting sucked in through the throttle body and mannifold would hit a road block at the head.

 

According to everything I have seen, a better intake manifold (like the ITR) is not going to help a basically stock B16A. Unless you have at least cams, I would save my money and stick with stock.

 

If you insist on buying an intake manifold, go with the AEBS unit for $150.

 

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Correct . A bigger and better intake manifold with stock components isn't going to be power felting. If you throw some mild cams on your head, you'll feel more power due to the fact that bigger cams just need more air. Also, if you have the B16A with the P30 intake mani, that mani is really good. Just port it a little and you basically have an ITR or CTR intake mani

 

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Correct . A bigger and better intake manifold with stock components isn't going to be power felting. If you throw some mild cams on your head, you'll feel more power due to the fact that bigger cams just need more air. Also, if you have the B16A with the P30 intake mani, that mani is really good. Just port it a little and you basically have an ITR or CTR intake mani </TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay, thanks for the info. Yeah, I have a JDM B16A with P30 stuff. From what I have been reading on the board is that my B16A is already a decent motor with all of the P30 items like pistons. I was going to change the cams though. I was planning on going with some CTR or Skunk2 Stage 1 cams.

What about a throttle body? What size is the stock TB on my motor? I was thinking about going with a 64mm TB. Thanks.

 

I disagree. Anyway you can open up the flow of your motor is going to help. Wether you port your head or not. Honda heads flow really well, and you will seen gains from something as simple as bolting on an intake manifold. Same reason why people put intake header exhaust on there car. Same concept.

Don't go over 70mm. Anything below that will be good. Prolly like a 68 or so.

 

The manifold is okay, but the runners on the itr/ctr are shorter, thats what makes the higher RPM power. get the aebs and polish it by hand, best 145bux i ever spent! AEBS


Modified by civicgsr19 at 2:30 AM 12/3/2004

 

yup get AEBS its makes 3-6 HP cross entire powerband and cost haft the price of skunk 2 and OEM TYPE R and also you can still P&P it to get more HP out of it :thumbup

 

From the most of the dynos I seen the stock manifold flowed the best until like 7000-8000. And a stock b16 stops making power at 7600. I could of sworn the ITR or the skunk2 manifold lost power down low compared to the stock manifold. If you get better cams it probably would be wise choice, just something to think about. Our motors need all the help they can get down low anyway in the powerband.

 

I've heard alot about the AEBS intake manifold. It seems like the best buy but I've heard that it is poor quality and difficult to install, something about the throttle cable being not correctly positioned? What are your impressions of the AEBS and the installation? Thanks.

 

i'd keep the p30 manifold, it flows alot better then people think and any gains you might see from the other manifolds wont be till high in the rpm range and will probably need tuning to achieve this, save your money and get a set of itr cams

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goforbroke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From the most of the dynos I seen the stock manifold flowed the best until like 7000-8000. And a stock b16 stops making power at 7600. I could of sworn the ITR or the skunk2 manifold lost power down low compared to the stock manifold. If you get better cams it probably would be wise choice, just something to think about. Our motors need all the help they can get down low anyway in the powerband.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what I was thinking. I think the stock manifold is probably pretty good already. Probably a bigger throttle body would be the way to go, say like 68mm.

 

dont mean to sound stupid but is aebs intake mani

 

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Huh???

Perhaps you should try to write a complete sentence next time. People might understand what you are trying to convey. Thanks.

 

I dont have a really good pic of the throttle body, but here is the aebs intake mani on my 00 jdm itr motor. With that, ported itr 70mm throttle body, and an exedy flywheel. the motor revs as fast as i could ever ask it to. Its very responsive for being a non itb'd car. posted by jaydmcrx at the top with the pic.

 

The best bet would be to find a sating AEBS intake manifold on ebay for around 125 bucks shipped. Thats where mine came from.

Also, the inlet of the mani is 65mm (could be made bigger) but if u send out the stock tb to maxbore he can get probably 64 or 65mm out of is. ( I think he does 64) and it will match up perfect with the manifold. If your concerned about the casting of the manifold it wouldnt be that hard to deburr it and smooth it up, thats what im going to do. Take no time at all.

 

JG sheetmetal, all the way

 

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JG sheetmetal, all the way</TD></TR></TABLE>

is that your motor? whats your setup? how aggressive of a setup do you have for that manifold to work well?

 

very nice

 

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85x92 RLZ built ITR
all custom internals


the mani used to be T-bones (Tom Coate's) and it carried power out past 8K on his engine...i haven't got to dyno mine yet....

it's made for decent builds, but any 2.0 I think would benifit from it

i'll be selling soon though, i think i'm a go ITBs soon

 

If you have the money to spend do it if not don't. I would go with the aebs one too. You will need it later on when you build the motor anyways. I think it will benifit on anymotor.