I recently purchased a b18a block. The guy I got it from says he put a ITR oil pump, and water pump on it. How do I check to see if it really is? There is a number on the outside of it, is that the part number?

 

Ha ha, ok i see so much info on these parts.....

I don't have the numbers, but did check with the dealer to find out 100% that both the Integra Type R and the GSR both use the exact same part numbers on both the water pump and oil pump.

I checked this based on a 2000 model year here in Canada which should be the same for US models.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Deetz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ha ha, ok i see so much info on these parts.....

I don't have the numbers, but did check with the dealer to find out 100% that both the Integra Type R and the GSR both use the exact same part numbers on both the water pump and oil pump.

I checked this based on a 2000 model year here in Canada which should be the same for US models.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Type R and GSR are identical - What does the number on the oil pump say?

 

There are only two B-series pumps. OBD1 and OBD2, the OBD2 pumps have mounts for the crank fluctuation sensors. GSR, Type-R, LS, CRV and B16 are all the same as long as the are OBD2.

 

there's no real way to tell on the oil pump other than checking to see if the ckf sensor mounts on it.
the water pump for gsr/itr have 22 teeth, and the b18a/b has 19 teeth

 

I haven't been home yet so I can't post the number on the pump yet. I'm about 99% sure it doesn't have any kind of plug on it though.

There is a diff. between the LS oil pump and the GSR/ITR one right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxhybrid85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is a diff. between the LS oil pump and the GSR/ITR one right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

NOPE, same part number. As long as both pumps are from the same OBD version.

 

THERE AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS A ******* TYPE-R OIL PUMP, SAME ******* ****!!!!!!!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mike K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there's no real way to tell on the oil pump other than checking to see if the ckf sensor mounts on it.
the water pump for gsr/itr have 22 teeth, and the b18a/b has 19 teeth</TD></TR></TABLE>

obd-1 are more money than obd-2 oil pump




Modified by BERT-O at 8:45 AM 12/1/2004

 

Just like everyone else said same ****. People act like there is a diff. its either VTEC or non Vtec for the water pumps ( teeth ) and oil pumps are
no diff between GSR / Type R

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mike K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there's no real way to tell on the oil pump other than checking to see if the ckf sensor mounts on it.
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it's really easy to tell. the obd2 pumps don't have as much of a shroud around where the crank comes thru. the obd1 pump have more of a shroud around that area. the obd2 pumps don't have it because the timing belt gear that goes on the crankshaft has an extra set of teeth on the outside of it for the ckf sensor. an obd2 timing belt gear won't be able to go on an obd1 oil pump. it doesn't have enough clearance.

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THERE AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS A ******* TYPE-R OIL PUMP, SAME ******* ****!!!!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

What I wanted to say

 

I'm just trying to find out because my block is a 93 LS so that would be a shitty oil pump for LS/VTEC right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxhybrid85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm just trying to find out because my block is a 93 LS so that would be a shitty oil pump for LS/VTEC right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you need to read your own thread man. this question was answered 2x already in this thread alone!

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NOPE, same part number. As long as both pumps are from the same OBD version. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kevinatCandR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are only two B-series pumps. OBD1 and OBD2, the OBD2 pumps have mounts for the crank fluctuation sensors. GSR, Type-R, LS, CRV and B16 are all the same as long as the are OBD2. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you need to read your own thread man. this question was answered 2x already in this thread alone!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm just trying to make sense of it. I have a 93 block, so it's OBD 1. All OBD 1 pumps are the same, but the GSR motor went from a b17 in 93 to b18c in 94. Does a 93 ls have the same pump as a 93 GSR and is that the same as a 94 GSR...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxhybrid85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm just trying to make sense of it. I have a 93 block, so it's OBD 1. All OBD 1 pumps are the same, but the GSR motor went from a b17 in 93 to b18c in 94. Does a 93 ls have the same pump as a 93 GSR and is that the same as a 94 GSR...</TD></TR></TABLE>

OK you must not be allowed to use a fork when you eat.

B"insert number here" OBD 1 all the same

B"insert number here" OBD 2 all the same

You can put an OBD2 pump on an OBD1 motor and vice versa. How ever you will have to change lower covers.

 

Only the water pumps are really diff to my knowledge as far as the gears go.. ( VTEC Water Pump and / Non Vtec ) they spin at diff speeds due to
diff RPMS the motors handle. Oil Pumps should be the same across all b-series engines besides the OBD2 gear / bottom cover.

The only rumor ( which i dont think is true but maybe ) is that GSR/Type R
pumps use a diff spring which changes the pressure in the pump take it for
what its worth I dont know if thats tru or not.

 

ok so there is a different between type r/gsr oil pump and a LS oil pump correcT? I bought me a type r oil pump becuz i'm plannin to go ls/vtec and also gsr/type r water pump! I was told that it's recommended if i go vtec!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QUiKSR20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only the water pumps are really diff to my knowledge as far as the gears go.. ( VTEC Water Pump and / Non Vtec ) they spin at diff speeds due to
diff RPMS the motors handle. Oil Pumps should be the same across all b-series engines besides the OBD2 gear / bottom cover.

The only rumor ( which i dont think is true but maybe ) is that GSR/Type R
pumps use a diff spring which changes the pressure in the pump take it for
what its worth I dont know if thats tru or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well if the parts #'s are all the same....why would there be a diff spring??would they just put them in random pumps?

 

Why hasn't this thread ended yet?

 

Just reading at TI yesterday some guy took his oil pump apart then questioned the dealer and then took apart a nonvtec pump as well and his final result was that all of the b series oil pumps are the same except that the ones destined for vtec motors have a spring that opens the release valve a little latter equaling a higher oil pressure....check it out for yourself a search at team integra but I think he said all you had to do is remove a washer from the non vtec pump to have the same thing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MugenRacerX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just reading at TI yesterday some guy took his oil pump apart then questioned the dealer and then took apart a nonvtec pump as well and his final result was that all of the b series oil pumps are the same except that the ones destined for vtec motors have a spring that opens the release valve a little latter equaling a higher oil pressure....check it out for yourself a search at team integra but I think he said all you had to do is remove a washer from the non vtec pump to have the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Man. I need to quit my job at Acura and work for TI. They're totally on to something.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man. I need to quit my job at Acura and work for TI. They're totally on to something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nah, don't do that. You don't get paid to work at TI

 

eh whats TI?

 

So there is a difference between an obd1 gsr oil pump and an itr obd2 oil pump.

Is there also a difference between a b16a obd0 oil pump and gsr obd1 oil pump ??