since i get asked this all the time-
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since i get asked this all the time-
my setup is the following-
1997 CX hatchback
1999 d16y8
75.5 bore
p29 pistons from an 88-89 teg
shotpeened y8 rods
balanced bottom end (to 10k)
Apexi 1.5mm headgasket
stock head bolts/ rod bolts
OE bearings and assorted assembly parts
mildly ported y8 head w/ 3 angle (w/ backcut valves)
Crower stage 3 cam
Crower springs and Ti retainers
Skunk2 intake manifold
BBK 62mm throttle body
SMS 4-1 header
Apexi N1 exhaust with modified inlet flange (1.75 ID corrected to 2"ID)
DC DAC w/ 'cold-air' extension
MSD 6al
MSD Blaster SS
NGK bkr6e-11 gapped at .042
AEM FPR
Walbro 255FI intank pump
Prelude 280cc injectors (it's what i had laying around)
Apexi Power FC soon to be tuned (again) by Chan @ RPMNYC
Apexi Super Ground system
159 atw/ 115 tq with Crower Stage 2, y8 intake manifold, DC 4-2-1 and unmodified exhaust...on c12
Modified by builthatch at 10:59 PM 12/1/2004
1997 CX hatchback
1999 d16y8
75.5 bore
p29 pistons from an 88-89 teg
shotpeened y8 rods
balanced bottom end (to 10k)
Apexi 1.5mm headgasket
stock head bolts/ rod bolts
OE bearings and assorted assembly parts
mildly ported y8 head w/ 3 angle (w/ backcut valves)
Crower stage 3 cam
Crower springs and Ti retainers
Skunk2 intake manifold
BBK 62mm throttle body
SMS 4-1 header
Apexi N1 exhaust with modified inlet flange (1.75 ID corrected to 2"ID)
DC DAC w/ 'cold-air' extension
MSD 6al
MSD Blaster SS
NGK bkr6e-11 gapped at .042
AEM FPR
Walbro 255FI intank pump
Prelude 280cc injectors (it's what i had laying around)
Apexi Power FC soon to be tuned (again) by Chan @ RPMNYC
Apexi Super Ground system
159 atw/ 115 tq with Crower Stage 2, y8 intake manifold, DC 4-2-1 and unmodified exhaust...on c12
Modified by builthatch at 10:59 PM 12/1/2004
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Re: since i get asked this all the time- (cueballsi)
a hair under 12.3:1
power production is down a decent amount on pump gas, around 10-15 whp depending on the tune, however, it's still pretty streetable, i run 94 or 93 no problem, and with creative tuning and preparation, you could run 91, however, i would not suggest the y8 head unless you go with an even thicker HG than mine...
power production is down a decent amount on pump gas, around 10-15 whp depending on the tune, however, it's still pretty streetable, i run 94 or 93 no problem, and with creative tuning and preparation, you could run 91, however, i would not suggest the y8 head unless you go with an even thicker HG than mine...
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Re: since i get asked this all the time- (builthatch)
i was just about to ask about your setup lol.
how much compression would a6 pistons in a y8 yield. I wont have the octane for the a1 pistons.
also how is the idle and general drivabilty?
how much compression would a6 pistons in a y8 yield. I wont have the octane for the a1 pistons.
also how is the idle and general drivabilty?
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Re: (ONEcam)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ONEcam »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cant wait to see your #'s on the new setup, ever plan on running a standalone [sp] ?</TD></TR></TABLE>thx....
Hey, the Apexi Power FC is a standalone! It's just not very popular yet, however, it is AMAZING, especially considering the price.
Hey, the Apexi Power FC is a standalone! It's just not very popular yet, however, it is AMAZING, especially considering the price.
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Re: since i get asked this all the time- (willyboyD16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by willyboyD16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was just about to ask about your setup lol.
how much compression would a6 pistons in a y8 yield. I wont have the octane for the a1 pistons.
also how is the idle and general drivabilty?</TD></TR></TABLE>
a6 pistons would yield almost 10.5:1...
http://www.knology.net/~jediklc/D.htm is your friend, bookmark that ****!
idle is perfect becuase i have an Apexi Power FC with idle stability, however, believe it or not, the car idles well even with the stability turned off! hard to believe considering the crazy stage 3 profile, however, i don't know how it would idle with solely a honda ecu...maybe hondata, atleast....
driveability, again, is great, and that might be a testament to the FC's flexibility, however, my gas mileage is shitty, but the tune has alot to do with that, i am getting it tuned again since i've added some major parts since the last time it was tuned.
how much compression would a6 pistons in a y8 yield. I wont have the octane for the a1 pistons.
also how is the idle and general drivabilty?</TD></TR></TABLE>
a6 pistons would yield almost 10.5:1...
http://www.knology.net/~jediklc/D.htm is your friend, bookmark that ****!
idle is perfect becuase i have an Apexi Power FC with idle stability, however, believe it or not, the car idles well even with the stability turned off! hard to believe considering the crazy stage 3 profile, however, i don't know how it would idle with solely a honda ecu...maybe hondata, atleast....
driveability, again, is great, and that might be a testament to the FC's flexibility, however, my gas mileage is shitty, but the tune has alot to do with that, i am getting it tuned again since i've added some major parts since the last time it was tuned.
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Re: (builthatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by builthatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hey, the Apexi Power FC is a standalone! It's just not very popular yet, however, it is AMAZING, especially considering the price.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my bad,
, how is the power FC for a person with no tuning background, very user friendly? or should i just leave it for the "tuner", we are both running sort of the same setup so keep us posted on when u decide to get it tuned 
cant wait to see your numbers
good luck
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Hey, the Apexi Power FC is a standalone! It's just not very popular yet, however, it is AMAZING, especially considering the price.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my bad,
, how is the power FC for a person with no tuning background, very user friendly? or should i just leave it for the "tuner", we are both running sort of the same setup so keep us posted on when u decide to get it tuned cant wait to see your numbersgood luck
-*****-
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Re: (ONEcam)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ONEcam »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
my bad,, how is the power FC for a person with no tuning background, very user friendly? or should i just leave it for the "tuner", we are both running sort of the same setup so keep us posted on when u decide to get it tuned cant wait to see your numbers
good luck
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the fc is meant to be tuned by an Apexi Power Excel shop, since the new english software, the latest version of the software for the FC called "FCPro", is only avail. to power excel shops...and the FC itself is only avail. thru Power Excel dealers. Sure there are other ways to go about it, like getting a box from Ebay, a gray-market box imported from japan, and using the bootleg software by Datalogit, which is essentially just the old edition of the software, but translated by some New Zealand dude.
ha, you could also try to tune with the commander, but good luck navigating 5X5 at a time, and you lose a ton of flexibility and tuning features w/o the software.
THe FC is extremely affordable, with a retail right now of about 650 with commander, which is unheard of for a plug and play stand alone....sure, you cant run 3 rev limiters and run 10 coils like the EMS, but it has some awesome functions and tuning is on a 20X20 matrix for timing and fueling events...
my bad,
, how is the power FC for a person with no tuning background, very user friendly? or should i just leave it for the "tuner", we are both running sort of the same setup so keep us posted on when u decide to get it tuned cant wait to see your numbersgood luck
-*****-</TD></TR></TABLE>
the fc is meant to be tuned by an Apexi Power Excel shop, since the new english software, the latest version of the software for the FC called "FCPro", is only avail. to power excel shops...and the FC itself is only avail. thru Power Excel dealers. Sure there are other ways to go about it, like getting a box from Ebay, a gray-market box imported from japan, and using the bootleg software by Datalogit, which is essentially just the old edition of the software, but translated by some New Zealand dude.
ha, you could also try to tune with the commander, but good luck navigating 5X5 at a time, and you lose a ton of flexibility and tuning features w/o the software.
THe FC is extremely affordable, with a retail right now of about 650 with commander, which is unheard of for a plug and play stand alone....sure, you cant run 3 rev limiters and run 10 coils like the EMS, but it has some awesome functions and tuning is on a 20X20 matrix for timing and fueling events...
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