is there a whole lot of difference between the Econotig and Syncrowave 180? just looking on ebay brand new they are about $1200 for the Econotig and $1600 for the Syncrowave. is the Syncro worth the extra $400? they also have a few used Econos for around $800. i just cant justify spending $1600 for a welder i wouldnt use a whole lot. i mainly want to try to see if i can make a manifold. i am taking classes with tig right now and i got the hang of it right away and can lay a pretty nice bead. i'm not going to be welding anything really big. just tubing and maybe some 1/8" flat stock, possibly 1/4" flat. i have a mig welder also if i need it. so can you guys give your opinions on the Econotig or other similar machines (i would like a good name as in miller, lincoln, hobart, esab)?

btw - i dont know what all the features mean on tigs since i'm kinda new with it. i've done it for a total of about 5 hours and just basically went by what my instructor set the machine too, although i have messed with some. the machine i use at class is a miller 350

 

sent pm

 

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Got some input? Why not share it with the rest of us

 

this is not the place to talk about it

 

I'm in a similar situation so id like to hear some more opinions. From what ive read the Econotig doesnt weld as nicely and is crappy doing thinner or thicker matierials and i should just sack up and buy the Syncrowave 180.

EDIT: this is what the PM was aboot
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...&rd=1


Modified by fatvat at 7:33 PM 11/27/2004

 

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Why is it some top secret information? Jesus christ its a welder...*shrug*

 

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Why is it some top secret information? Jesus christ its a welder...*shrug*</TD></TR></TABLE>

it had nothing to do with either of these welders. its not a big deal. dont worry about it

anyone have any opinions on either of these?

 

Econotig is a POS... 150 amps is not enough. i hated mine.

 

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sorry i just have respect for the forum rules,

 

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is 150 vs. 180 really that big of a difference? (i'm not being sarcastic. i really dont know)

 

the econo tig is 165 amps , and the 180sd is 180amps,

 

so the tigmate is 150, econotig is 165, and syncrowave is 180

 

yes,

 

I had an EconoTig (first gen) and I had trouble at the low end, as in, it won't go to a low enough current before cutting off. It made it all but impossible (for me) to weld thin sheet. The higher priced units are able to control the current down to a lower limit, better for thin sheet. At the high end it was fine.

 

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I love my econotig, works fine for everything I need Picked it up super cheap 2 years old from a welding/fabrication shop. To anybody who says that it doesn't weld as nice as some other machine, you don't know what your talking about.

 

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i have a hobart tigmate wich is the same thing as the econotig and it works great for me , i just wish it had more features , but for what i paid i cant bitch , it does what i need it to and more,

 

well i think i am going to go with the Econotig. the best price i have seen so far is $1237 shipped on ebay for it brand new. anyone know where i can get it cheaper? or anyone have a used machine similar in quality that they are selling?

or should i go with the Syncrowave 180 for $1467 shipped from ebay brand new?


Modified by 98AccordEX at 4:07 AM 11/30/2004


Modified by 98AccordEX at 4:08 AM 11/30/2004

 

Have you looked local? Ive been looking at Tig welders for a while and the thing i like the best about local shops is most let you test the welder before you buy it . Im really looking into buying this welder http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...&rd=1
steve

 

Ya I would definately go local. When I got my Hobart I shopped around and got it locally for maybe $35 more than Ebay, and they threw in some consumables like tips and a spool of wire. Plus a local welding shop is just cool

 

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Hmm, wasn't Joseph a carpenter ? I did not know they had welders back then, learn something new every day

 

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For the difference in money go with the syncrowave. I bought my econotig used for 1000 canadian, at that time about $770 bux USD. If i was buying new i'd definatly get the squarewave machine!

 

What kinda of electrical work would one have to do at home to run a Syncrowave 180.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by essex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kinda of electrical work would one have to do at home to run a Syncrowave 180.</TD></TR></TABLE> I was also wondering this. I have 220 for the air compressor but what size breaker do you need to run a Syncrowave 180?

thanks steve

 

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Any machine that runs off of 220v will run at your house. Basically, you just pull 2 wires off breakers in your fuse panel, whereas your typical electrical outlet pulls 1. It's just like wiring in a stove.

Many of the newer machines like the Dynasty will run off of virtually any power you will run into, either at home or in industry.