Hey all you guys out there stuck with a h23a1 non-vtec, and dont have the money for a h22 swap. What have you found to be the most beneficial upgrade for performance to your engine besides I/H/E. Discluding turbos and superchargers of course. Thx.

 

Some beefy cams would help make a little more topend power where the h23 lacks...

 

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I Have 2 92 si preludes, one has the JDM type-s H22 with a mugen hedder, Skunk2 exhaust, and AEM air intake. The other is a H23a1 that has a billet crank, H-beam rods, AEM intake, and a full exhaust and the H23a1 has a quicker 1/8 mile time.............................. so im not to shure about all that H23 is garbage stuff.


Modified by HondaLude92 at 8:55 PM 11/27/2004

 

as much as i love the h23, i'd have to say that by the end of the 1/4 mile the h22 would have made out the lost time due to less torque...thats why the h23 is quicker to the 1/8th

 

get some nasty bump sticks, and throw in the type s pistons for the higher compression

 

no type s pistons...that would yeald at over 12.6:1 compression...too high for the street!!!! your car you have to be really good tuned....i would get usdm which you will get 11.1:1 or jdm non type s will you will get 11.7:1 andything ove 12:1 i wouldnt use on the street...

 

what type of "beefy" cams would you guys recommend?

 

Why wouldn't you use anything over 12:1 on the street?

 

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Crower either stage 1 or 2. If you do stage 2 you'll have to get their springs and retainers...

 

If you get a stand alone EMS and higher compression I think that you could run Crower St. 3's. I an going to call Brian Crower tomarrow for more info. They are similar to Crower's LS 404's and the 404's have a slight lope at idle but are otherwise streetable.

Pirate

 

please get us that info...try to get the full specs to all 3 stages,,,

 

Here are Crower stage 1 and 3's specs. I have never seen the specs for the 2's.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothre...30543

Pirate

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothre...30543

Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>

good ****! guess im gonna have to call crower for the stage II's 2morrow...any1 have the number? i had it, but i lost it.

 

Hey would you recommend the stage 2's with stock internals minus I/H/E, if i get the springs and retainer?

 

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thats my plans

 

yeah i've heard nothing but good things about the crower cams. Also I dont mind my H23 at all. Its still faster than my last car. I have an H22 laying around, but shes going in something else

 

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Modified by HondaLude92 at 8:55 PM 11/27/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree, i love my H23a, ive got a friend who just sold his H23 for a H22, and was beaten on a 1/4 mile by a H23a a couple of days after (check out preludeaustralia.com for the full post).

The H23a has stronger sleeves than the H22a, and can take more of a pounding. Anyway getting a bit OT, just im getting sick of ppl putting donn the H23a, VTEC is such an ego trip.

 

i def. agree on that last statment, H23 POWER
yea, im looking at crower stage 2 cams for my next mod...just need to get the money now

 

lets us know how it goes...im currently working on a h23 build right now as well as a g23 build....look to break 200whp w/o vtec

glad to see all these h23 fans

 

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glad to see all these h23 fans</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey, what are you current mods to your h23? Im just trying to figure out what i should to next, and i still can't make a decision yet.

 

cold air intake throttle body and dc headers which suck....im getting custom headers when i have money but cams come 1st.

 

megan racing header isnt to bad w/ a carsound cat...i noticed quite a diff. in the upper rpms...

 

what are your current mods?

 

Cold air intake, DC sport header...(it really does suck) but it will have to do for now, Apexi exhaust. What type of throttle body are u running? I also think my next step will be cams.