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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 03:16 PM
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The great header test was very interesting,
thanks to all people who made it

I wonder if the increase of performance would be the same
on an European R ?
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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 03:27 PM
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I would think so, but it would depend on what kind of exhaust manifold your car has now. What size collector does it have?
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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 03:44 PM
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What do you mean by "size" ?

Is the diameter just after the engine ? or just before the cat ?
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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 03:47 PM
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For sure it would... Nice to meet a neighbour.. Prepare for Euro

Euro spec = JDM, so there`s nothing to sweat

The collector`s size is 2,25``

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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 03:53 PM
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Since the Euro header is the same as the JDM, the increases would be there but just not a dramatic.
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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 03:58 PM
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OK, let's go for a new header...

Another thing... Is there a simple way to
reduce the rev where the VTEC kicks ?
Or I need to change the ECU ?
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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 04:12 PM
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There are many ways to change the x-over

1) Vtec-controller only (I`m selling one since I`ve got a power fc)
2) VAFC
3) Fields
4) Aftermarket ECU
5) Eprom
5) Standalone ECU like power fc etc..

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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 04:21 PM
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The VTEC controler can be switched on-off ?
Is it easy to install ?
What price do you demand for yours ?
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Old Dec 29, 2001 | 05:06 PM
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did you mean 2.5"?
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 03:18 AM
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I`ve had the header off some days ago for having the dc installed .. the diameter is <U> 5 centimeter </U> ... Iguess 2,25`` ??

The Vtec Controller is easy to install. You have to connect a few wires ans install a switch in the drivers cabin. Every parts are included.
You can set the x-over from 2900 up to 7000 rpm while driving wen it`s needed.
I would dyno it so you can gain some torque or set the x-over ´higer on longer trips at high speed (to run on the primary lobe at 6200rpm or so to save fuel)

I paid more than 700 Marks but I would sell it for 150 Euro (new: more than 380 Euro)

http://www.tss-tuning.de/diverses-vtec-controller.htm

Contact me if you`re interested: sven@integratype-r.de

Maijk

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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 04:59 AM
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The Euro ITR header is 4-2-1 two piece but not the same as the USDM one. JDM header = 4-1 and 2.5" OD.

Maybe the Euro header is the '96 JDM ITR header. The OD (outer diameter) = 57 mm (2.25"). The ID is about 46 mm (1.8").

You will definately feel a difference if you upgrade your euro header into a 2.5" header. But you need a 2.5" testpipe or cat and you need to modify your B-pipe also.
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:10 AM
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how come the US gets the worst cars?
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:19 AM
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Better than geting no cars. We in Austria have no Skylines, no RX7 3gen., no Supra (the newest gen)....we have to import them from a other eropean country :sux azz:
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:23 AM
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[QUOTE]The Euro ITR header is 4-2-1 two piece but not the same as the USDM one. JDM header = 4-1 and 2.5" OD.

Maybe the Euro header is the '96 JDM ITR header. The OD (outer diameter) = 57 mm (2.25"). The ID is about 46 mm (1.8").QUOTE]

I don`t know your car, but mine had a 4-1 header with an inner diameter of 50mm.

The US got the worst parts.. maybe..
But you have the largest aftermarket. Most of our ITR`s are stock.


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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:37 AM
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WHAT!!!!!!! Sven are you sure your stock header is 4-1???? Mine is 4-2-1! damn, that would be crazy!
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:38 AM
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I don`t know your car, but mine had a 4-1 header with an inner diameter of 50mm.
You bought your car new? That's certainly not the stock Euro header!!
Does it have a heat shield? Is it stainless steel? And what kind of cat do you have?
I think it's a non-JDM 4-1 aftermarket header you had.....
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:46 AM
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Surprising....
I bought it used. The former owner installed a DTM exhaust, a speaker system and the viper. Maybe he swapped the header too.... possible. I never saw him in personal

That would explain why my R dynoed more than 190 crank hp the first time which is rare. =&gt; Because it wasn`t stock..

Anyway, I don`t like the 4-1 header because I don`t care about peak power. I need a higher velocity through the header between 2500rpm and 5000rpm so the dc 4-2-1 feels way better.

I can`t tell any dyno results because major mods will be done in January..so I`ll dyno it after that.

So okay,I was wrong.... The stock header is a small 421 design ????? Hmmm.


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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:48 AM
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Sven, you drove a illegal car all the time and you did´nt know it
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 06:55 AM
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Sven, you drove a illegal car all the time and you did´nt know it
Don`t mock
the header is behind a heatshield... nobody cares...
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 07:20 AM
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Sven, you drove a illegal car all the time and you did´nt know it
Why would the header be illegal? Only a testpipe is non-legal, right?
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 07:24 AM
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Here in Austria (and I think in Europe everywhere) you MUST declare every part on the car to the government.....and a header is in most case not TUV prooven......therefore not legal. Same with exhaust. You need a TUV prooven exhaust, otherwise your car is not legal on streets. You know, it is louder than stock, maybe the emissions are off
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 07:32 AM
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Yes,
every part has to have the "general operating permit".
If it`s not, than you have the chance to try a "single permit". &lt;== costs hell and
the parts have to operate withing very strict noise, emission and security-standards, just like Christian said..

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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 07:39 AM
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OK, what the hell is a test-pipe and a b-pipe ?

For the cat, it is gone 2 month ago (now I only have a tube)...
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 07:44 AM
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This is a test pipe
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Old Dec 30, 2001 | 07:52 AM
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Hey ! it is like my new "cat"

Where does it go ?
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