does the aem long ram intake make that much of a difference to spend a lot more than on a short ram ?

 

long ram?

 

lol. aem doesn't make a 'long ram' intake. if you're talking about the cold air intake, it really depends on where you're looking to make power. do you want midrange or highend power?

 

short ram makes the most power of the 2, end of story. i've seen dynos of cai's and they seem to spike in the 5K area, but beyond that the sri makes a **** load more power post vtec.

 

Read this, it discusses the 'AEM hump' that B16C1 refers to above, as well as some reviews of SRIs and CAIs

http://www.automotivetech.org/...ber=1

 

long ram, cold air doesnt matter the question is, is it worth the money ... i think the short ram will do just as good as the cold air if not better

 

Lol, long ram....

I think you answered you question.

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I'm surpised no one has mentioned this, but do you know that your are looking at a 4-5 HP difference then stock at a MAX!! I mean between the Cold Air Intake and Short RAM the CAI will make peak power in the mid range power band, while the Short RAM will make it at top end. Again it doesn't make a real HP difference in any case so go with the cheaper short RAM...just get one from Ebay for $30...I have it worked well when I replaced the cheap *** filter

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adseguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm surpised no one has mentioned this, but do you know that your are looking at a 4-5 HP difference then stock at a MAX!! I mean between the Cold Air Intake and Short RAM the CAI will make peak power in the mid range power band, while the Short RAM will make it at top end. Again it doesn't make a real HP difference in any case so go with the cheaper short RAM...just get one from Ebay for $30...I have it worked well when I replaced the cheap *** filter </TD></TR></TABLE>

more like 2hp max. the biggest difference with an air intake is the sound. at WOT it'll howl...

 

Its been proven that a short ram intake is good for top end high rpm power while the Cold air intake is beter for low and mid-range power!

My question is since I have a lower reving engine(B18b) that only revs to 7500, so would it be better to run a short or a cold air intake? I have an iceman cold air, and I have tried both(SRI + CAI) and there doesnt seem like much difference at top end, however the low and mid range seems to totally different! The reason I ask is most dyno I have seen comparing them seem to be on 8500-9000 rpm Vtec engines!

 

omg, its an intake! its an aluminum tube with a filter on the end. if someone switched your cai with a short ram, you would never even notice the difference.
make a diy icebox for 10 bucks and call it a day.
oh, and dynoing an intake is retarded.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSvtec03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">omg, its an intake! its an aluminum tube with a filter on the end. if someone switched your cai with a short ram, you would never even notice the difference.
make a diy icebox for 10 bucks and call it a day.
oh, and dynoing an intake is retarded. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I didnt waste my money on it! And YES it does make a difference, I have seen the dynos done by a shop testing different intakes!

Thats like saying there is no difference between 4-1 and 4-2-1 exhaust manifolds! How about using a lil common sense!

 

Weird my short, $30, Ebay, intake made almost 10hp on the dyno. not peak mind you, but in parts of the rev range.

 

Do you know the diameter of the ebay intake? 3 inches?

 

no one is mentioning the fact that sri's flow hot air, which in the end will rob power.
the purpose of the cai is to flow colder air which helps create power.

 

just get a Short Ram

 

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the purpose of the cai is to flow colder air which helps create power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Got Heat Shield?

 

i am so tired of intake talk

 

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Got Heat Shield? </TD></TR></TABLE>
you have a point but i think in real world driving, the cold air is giving you more direct airflow. you can use a heat shield but how much effective would that be with all that hot under hood engine air?

 

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Then choose another thread to post in, No one is making you read this!


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the purpose of the cai is to flow colder air which helps create power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This true too! I think it all boils down to what motor, setup, and use of the vehicle(race, dailydriver, etc.)!

 

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make a diy icebox for 10 bucks and call it a day.
oh, and dynoing an intake is retarded. </TD></TR></TABLE>



Good lord...seriously, There is no way you will feel a 5hp difference. The sound changes and you want to feel more performance so you think it's a lot faster...but guess what..it's not!

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Please show a graph or something, because I could pull one out that only shows 4-5 WHP difference off stock. If you were to look at the expensive AEM CAI and a cheapo **** box there is like 2 WHP difference. This is not an area of performance to be worried about...A nice header+exhaust will give you a little more bang. Just remeber this is a honda and it won't push much HP without serious work! I'm not flaming it's just really stupid to be concerned about this for so little HP difference

 

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Please show a graph or something, because I could pull one out that only shows 4-5 WHP difference off stock. If you were to look at the expensive AEM CAI and a cheapo **** box there is like 2 WHP difference. This is not an area of performance to be worried about...A nice header+exhaust will give you a little more bang. Just remeber this is a honda and it won't push much HP without serious work! I'm not flaming it's just really stupid to be concerned about this for so little HP difference </TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed... piping'll do it for ya... a cai won't hurt either.

 

Depending on the purpose of which the car is being used for, every variable becomes an issue!

 

Anyone buying into a dyno result of an intake really should re-think that. The idea of a CAI is to get "COLD AIR". And cooler outside air will perform better than the hotter inside air. Of course the legnth of the tubing may affect the overall performance. I'm sure a cowl induction hood doesn't make any real horsepower on the dyno but you better believe it makes more power on the road.
But as stated before its not real likely that any intake will make any significant improvement over the other.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone buying into a dyno result of an intake really should re-think that. The idea of a CAI is to get "COLD AIR". And cooler outside air will perform better than the hotter inside air. Of course the legnth of the tubing may affect the overall performance. I'm sure a cowl induction hood doesn't make any real horsepower on the dyno but you better believe it makes more power on the road.
But as stated before its not real likely that any intake will make any significant improvement over the other.</TD></TR></TABLE>


CAI also restricts air at high rpm!