wat up people....i have a full race turbo kit an aem ems and a whole lot of other things for this turbo build but i was going to go easy for my first build until i come back from school so im not gonna build a motor...my question is which motor pulls harder...........a b16 or an ls...or a b20 with ls head..thanks

 

a b20 w/ ls head ??? thats the same thing as just an ls motor

 

well technically its not like an ls because its a 2.0 motor which is not the same as 1.8 so if im runnin 7 pound on a 1.8 the 2.0 can handle it better and pull harder stick to ur single cams men

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well technically its not like an ls because its a 2.0 motor which is not the same as 1.8 so if im runnin 7 pound on a 1.8 the 2.0 can handle it better and pull harder stick to ur single cams men</TD></TR></TABLE>

He was meaning that the LS and B20 head are basically the same....which, they are. The b20 can not "handle it better" than the LS or the b16. I personally love my LS so that's where my vote is. Don't come on here and make rude comments when you are the one asking very uneducated questions .

Phil

 

down low the ls wil pull harder, after vtec the b16 will pull significantly harder than the LS

 

i think irock meant thats the same as just a b20...i think the LS and CRV heads are the same...i personally have a b16 turbo in my DA and the ****** pulls hard. I made 193 pounds of torque at 9psi, 223 whp, but that was because i had to shut down the car at 6000rpm because of a lean condition, so i am really not too sure how much power my car is making, but trust me, either way, LS or b16, you'll be a happy camper.

 

thats exactly what i meant .... a b20 and ls head are the same, they both dont have vtec. and FYI i do have a hatch with an ls in i so dont assume **** just cause my screen name says irockthesohc. maybe u should use the search button sometime

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well technically its not like an ls because its a 2.0 motor which is not the same as 1.8 so if im runnin 7 pound on a 1.8 the 2.0 can handle it better and pull harder stick to ur single cams men</TD></TR></TABLE>
def wrong a ls motor can handle more boost than a b20 anytime of the day. do a search and you ll be surprise how weak the b20 sleeves are.
btw b20 head=b18b head.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 14bcoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
def wrong a ls motor can handle more boost than a b20 anytime of the day. do a search and you ll be surprise how weak the b20 sleeves are.
btw b20 head=b18b head. </TD></TR></TABLE>

true dat.....

If you want more tq get an ls want more hp get a b16 or you can have the best of 2 worlds. either way you be happy.

 

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yes and no, same design. different cams. if u arent taking the cams into consideration than i retract my previous statement. manual tranny ls cams in a b20 made 7whp more than stock b20 cams. food for thought.

 

TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I THINK THE LS IS BETTER THAN ALL OF THEM. THE B16 WILL PULL HARDER THAN THE LS BUT OFCOURSE IT HAS VTEC. FOR THE PRICE OF AN LS COMPARED TO A B16 YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WITH A FEW . MODS

 

i have a turbo b20 setup for a while. switching to my built LS turbo now The b20 pulled like nuts tho

I say get 3 cheap LS's for what that 1 B16 or B20 costs and have fun w/ your setup and make room for plenty of tunning. Good Luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattcalica &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think irock meant thats the same as just a b20...i think the LS and CRV heads are the same...i personally have a b16 turbo in my DA and the ****** pulls hard. I made 193 pounds of torque at 9psi, 223 whp, but that was because i had to shut down the car at 6000rpm because of a lean condition, so i am really not too sure how much power my car is making, but trust me, either way, LS or b16, you'll be a happy camper.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a B20/LS has a shorter rev lemit. Revs go by faster and you accelerate threw the gears a lot quicker. But up top i'm sure the b16 pulls hard but the LS is doubling almost the Ftlbs and putting out prolly just as much power. Not knockin a b16, but from what ive have or road in or seen. The LS/B20's have a lot more useable power band. Plus you have to think. its still a 1.6 A 1.8 and 2.0 will make more power and ftlbs underboost.

BTW, on 8psi w/ FMU setup. I guy i talked to made 7whp just by switching from B20b cams to B18b 5speed cams. I had the LS cams in my b20

 

Brad don't lie...the b20 was slow

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brad don't lie...the b20 was slow </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what my friends 10 sec Turbo mustang thought until i was side by side w/ him!

BTW, howd you like riden in it?

 

im sorry for the comments people my bad....ummm but i thank everybody for ur opinions ive decided to go with the ls/v route

 

LS will have nice TQ down low and spool a drop quicker (depending upon which turbo), where the B16 will have to reved out for higher TQ

 

b16's always have to be reved out, boosted or not tho. somthing to think about i like the b16s and all, i just want a more usable powerband than what the b16 has to offer. merely from what i have seen, im sure there are people with amazing tunes making great power across the board in the b16 but for an ordinary throw it together urself kit. i say go ls

*cough* B20s SUCK *cough* j/k brad

 

ive had a turbo b16 setup and driven and ridden in a few ls turbo setups. I definitely prefer the LS at the same boost level. The reason i say this is because the low end was much better which in my opinion is more fun for a street car at low boost levels.

 

man you know what you need to do, first off ignore what other people in this thread said, obviously you have bananas and icecream which one tastes better. One person will say bananas and one will say icecream. Why dont you just put icecream and bananas together and make a sundae? thats the best of two worlds right there. Thats what i would do.... Consider your question answered!heheheh

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrdan4548 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man you know what you need to do, first off ignore what other people in this thread said, obviously you have bananas and icecream which one tastes better. One person will say bananas and one will say icecream. Why dont you just put icecream and bananas together and make a sundae? thats the best of two worlds right there. Thats what i would do.... Consider your question answered!heheheh </TD></TR></TABLE>

I am just curious how many LS/VTEC turbo's you have owned? What kind of power did they put down and how long did they last? Since all of our opinions are so terrible.

Phil

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaguyef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am just curious how many LS/VTEC turbo's you have owned? What kind of power did they put down and how long did they last? Since all of our opinions are so terrible.

Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>

to be honest im running a b16 with a drag kit, havent really tuned it yet but a guy running the same setup pushed 196tq personally didnt think that is enough so i am going ls/vtec turbo got the block and everything just waiting on rods/pistons and other gay stuff. its gonna be a first for me so im ever so excited just to see what it will do soo.....whats wrong with my opinion you dont find it hilarious? hehhehe

 

equal mods..a b16 will always be faster

 

ill just say one thing, non vtec rods have little bolts =P; i prefer the b16 due to the fact it doesnt make gobs of tq but carries the power to redline.... i mean its great that your LS can make like 190 - 200ft tq boosted but how useful is that in a front loader??? especially in first gear....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">equal mods..a b16 will always be faster</TD></TR></TABLE>

riiiiight