i got the choice of eiter a d16 from a homie at the local shop which is good condition all that needs to e done is he said the i need to take the head to a machine shop cause one of the psitons isnt firing off but he said he will help me with all that or should i just search for a b16 on H-T cause whichever i get i wanna boost in the future so which wouuld be a better choice?

 

is ur homie givin it to u for free. cause if he is i'd take it if ur just gonna boost it. b16 and d16 have the same torque pretty much anyway. boosted d's r pretty fast to. stock they suck though. i think so n e way.

 

If you do decide to go B series. Never waste your money on the 1.6L

D series is inexpesive and common to find replacements. If you are even somewhat tight on your budget and 250 Max whp is fine with you, go with the D.


BTW, common misconcetption about the B16 and D16, the D16 has more torque.

 

but then again b16 has 160 hp stock. and there not very expensive. and there dohc v tech

 

QUOTE=Spade]If you do decide to go B series. Never waste your money on the 1.6L

D series is inexpesive and common to find replacements. If you are even somewhat tight on your budget and 250 Max whp is fine with you, go with the D.


BTW, common misconcetption about the B16 and D16, the D16 has more torque.[/QUOTE]
y not waste ur money on the 1.6L?[

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civicse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and there dohc v tech </TD></TR></TABLE>
And all this time i thought they were vtec.

 

naw he is giving me the d16 for 400 and said by the time im done wiht the swap i will have prolly spent 700 which i hae plus some change so i can do that asap which is good cause my old motor is messing up but my friends keep telling me wait for the b16 its way better plus my other friend is selling a fully built d16y7 with port and polish ca cam cam gear and ZC tranny which is pretty quick and i know it been well taken care of so i have the money pretty much all thease motors i just wana make the wrong decsion and be mad alter i want the b16 but that gonna take time and more money but i just wann amake sure it will be worth it for me to wait.

 

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y not waste ur money on the 1.6L?
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been discussed a thousand times.......look at dynos and see what your getting for the price.....it isn't worth it other than the "DOHC look"

 

i thinku should go with the b16. it has a good tranny as well. i think the a1 is cable and the a2 is hydraulic. u can always use mods to fix its lack of torque.

 

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been discussed a thousand times.......look at dynos and see what your getting for the price.....it isn't worth it other than the "DOHC look"</TD></TR></TABLE>

d16 and b16 torque is about the same. only difference is that the b16 has a few extra ponies at the wheels.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civicse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thinku should go with the b16. it has a good tranny as well. i think the a1 is cable and the a2 is hydraulic. u can always use mods to fix its lack of torque. </TD></TR></TABLE>


why in the world would you recommend a short geared tranny for a future turbo'd application?

 

get a b18 block and swap the b16 head and tranny on that. that will b much better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civicse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a b18 block and swap the b16 head and tranny on that. that will b much better. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Again money invested to get 200 whp = 2500 for engine + 2700 for turbo kit

Or 2700 for turbo kit........

 

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why in the world would you recommend a short geared tranny for a future turbo'd application?</TD></TR></TABLE>


cause i'm crazy!!!

 

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Again money invested to get 200 whp = 2500 for engine + 2700 for turbo kit

Or 2700 for turbo kit........</TD></TR></TABLE>


k wait 2700 for turbo..... so no engine with that. just throw a turbo in ur engine bay by itself. ya that could work. hahaha

 

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Stop posting...... arghhh.... that would be horrible for boost.... youd be going through the gears way to fast... a GSR or LS tranny is best.

 

Spade, i wouldnt even waste my time with him.

 

u no what just go with a h22. 200 hp stock. u can't beat that now can u.

 

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Made obvious by last post

 

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Yeah the motor may cost only $2k but after installation u might as well have bought a type r engine.

 

well maybe u might find it hard to install. but pros like me can do it in the dark without any tools at all. just the hands i was born with

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civicse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well maybe u might find it hard to install. but pros like me can do it in the dark without any tools at all. just the hands i was born with </TD></TR></TABLE>

Pro my ***..... how about the mounts and everything else???? Do you know what you need for that swap????? In the end it costs as much as a type r.... its been shown many times on ht that a H22 costs alot to swap in.... and not counting labor.

Some pro you are.... im looking at the questions from your posts youve been asking and well your no pro....
https://honda-tech.com/zero...vicse

 

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And that motor would STILL have vtech .

And as for the swap, you also have to pound out your engine bay to get the engine to fit, and you're still looking at alot more money then I'm willing to spend.

 

if you're planning on minor boosting, both will give you about the same end result. also consider that you will have more room in the engine bay with the sohc, also not a huge factor, but you will only need one cam and/or cam gear with the sohc. i believe the compression is a bit lower in the sohc, being better for boost. i dunno what turbo you're looking at, but compare those prices between the kits for the b or d too.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cnyej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah the motor may cost only $2k but after installation u might as well have bought a type r engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, and the h22 will still have more power than the ITR


On topic: Go with a turbo d16 motor. It can be had for the same price as a b16, it's more fun, makes more power, and if you break something it's cheaper to fix. plus, b16's suck