Somone know a Compagny that sell those or other strut bar like this



thanks for your help

 

boo for $500 price tags

 

Miracle X bar has them, but it's also just about 400-500 bucks.

 

Wow, look at all those clothes hangers!

The rear of the body is very stout, you don't need them. If you don't believe, string some string across different points in the rear then setup a video camera to watch them... then go to a track day and do some hard driving and the video will be proof on how much you don't need triangulated Clothes hangers... especially ones with pivots where they connect to the body.. I mean what's the point?

If the video of this string is proof of anything it's that you need either a rollcage/rollbar or nothing at all. Hell, you can get a bolt in rollbar from IOPort racing for under 500$ Then at least you have something to mount 5 pt. belts to and you've increased safety.

With those bars, it would be a VERY bad idea to connect harness's to them, they don't increase safety, and there's no proof that they do anything at all. Are you willing to shell out 500$ for something that isn't proven?


Just trying to help!

 

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they got a web site?


Fourthgenhatchb17 's homie has the EM bars in his ef hatch

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice_classic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, look at all those clothes hangers!

The rear of the body is very stout, you don't need them. If you don't believe, string some string across different points in the rear then setup a video camera to watch them... then go to a track day and do some hard driving and the video will be proof on how much you don't need triangulated Clothes hangers... especially ones with pivots where they connect to the body.. I mean what's the point?

If the video of this string is proof of anything it's that you need either a rollcage/rollbar or nothing at all. Hell, you can get a bolt in rollbar from IOPort racing for under 500$ Then at least you have something to mount 5 pt. belts to and you've increased safety.

With those bars, it would be a VERY bad idea to connect harness's to them, they don't increase safety, and there's no proof that they do anything at all. Are you willing to shell out 500$ for something that isn't proven?


Just trying to help! </TD></TR></TABLE>

WoW
So much info there, I enjoyed it and was in need of some inlightenment I was about to get some of these but forget it rather have that stock non police attention anymore then I already get

 

rice, you are wasting your breath...
stan

 

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Just curious stan, but do you really think this setup is worth it?
Especially for 4-5 bills?

 

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Especially for 4-5 bills? </TD></TR></TABLE>
no, and furthermore i consider it a a danger to the driver, see rice_classic's responce for reasons.
here is what makes for a stronger unibody, in order of effectiveness.
seam welding.
cage (weld-in, bolt in to a lesses effect).
foaming the car.
stan

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice_classic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, look at all those clothes hangers!

The rear of the body is very stout, you don't need them. If you don't believe, string some string across different points in the rear then setup a video camera to watch them... then go to a track day and do some hard driving and the video will be proof on how much you don't need triangulated Clothes hangers... especially ones with pivots where they connect to the body.. I mean what's the point?

If the video of this string is proof of anything it's that you need either a rollcage/rollbar or nothing at all. Hell, you can get a bolt in rollbar from IOPort racing for under 500$ Then at least you have something to mount 5 pt. belts to and you've increased safety.

With those bars, it would be a VERY bad idea to connect harness's to them, they don't increase safety, and there's no proof that they do anything at all. Are you willing to shell out 500$ for something that isn't proven?


Just trying to help! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hi, my name is Jeremy and I agree with Mr. Rice Classic

 

I know I'm wasting my breath. The fact is.. I'm also wasting my money because instead of taking my time trying to educate people on how much of a BAD idea these things are I should be getting a business license and selling these ridiculous things for 200$ a pop and make a killing.

I bet Jamaica is more beautiful than the rainy NW right about now!

 

 

haha i was waiting for that

 

LOL

While we're on the subject, sort of, could someone, particulary rice_classic, share their ideas for a harness mount in a CRX. Something that goes behind the seats but not a full cage. I have an idea for a system but I want more input first. Lets hear it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice_classic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, look at all those clothes hangers!

The rear of the body is very stout, you don't need them. If you don't believe, string some string across different points in the rear then setup a video camera to watch them... then go to a track day and do some hard driving and the video will be proof on how much you don't need triangulated Clothes hangers... especially ones with pivots where they connect to the body.. I mean what's the point?

If the video of this string is proof of anything it's that you need either a rollcage/rollbar or nothing at all. Hell, you can get a bolt in rollbar from IOPort racing for under 500$ Then at least you have something to mount 5 pt. belts to and you've increased safety.
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have YOU actually done this??

 

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yea have u? i believ wat u say, but i still want to see proof.

That pic w/ the god damn jungle gym in it it funny as fawk!

 

Hah, it looks like Evasive has an explanation:

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/em_formula.html

 

Hmm, after reading rice's post, and the evasive post, I still would like to actually set up this video thing.

I think after you do good shock/spring/bushings...then you could do the cage. A cage is cheaper and I'm sure if done correctly, would be more rigid.

Those bars are pretty to look at, but with a cage you have a better chance to still cover your trunk area also.

The difference in flex with the triangulated piece would need to have a measureable difference before I paid out the wazzoo for those bars.

But they are blingin

 

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While we're on the subject, sort of, could someone, particulary rice_classic, share their ideas for a harness mount in a CRX. Something that goes behind the seats but not a full cage. I have an idea for a system but I want more input first. Lets hear it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

NEVER USE HARNESS BELTS WITHOUT A CAGE OR ROLL BAR!

I used caps for a reason! There is no other way... no matter how inventive you can be, unless you design a way to mount harness belts that keeps your roof from caving in during a rollover then go for it. Other then that, if you mount belts without a cage or a bar and you rollover then you WILL DIE because you body won't be able to move.

 

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No, not yet. I will soon, my roommate and I were talking about it and I have a camera and string so we will go out when the weather is less "wet" but in the NW that could be a while.

Besides... if you're gonna have some ungodly bullshit in the back of your car taking up all the room WHY NOT just make a small cage? INstead of having bars that have pivot points on them why not just weld 2 straight bars? You can make small triangles without taking up any room and since they are welded bars they are rigid.

I HAVE taken physics however and it doesn't take a genius to discover a design flaw.... or better yet, a financial flaw. The ONLY smart person in this scenario is the businessman selling these silly things!

 

The string method would be pretty hard to test. If anything, i don't think the chassis would flex that much to begin with. If i say that though, i may very well open up another discussion as to whether or not the chassis even needs to be stiffened up (some race buddies of mine have told me they make no difference).

Anyways, if you were to use the strings, you would need some sort of quick release system, so that they fall off the instant they're tweaked.

 

Rice_classic to you for educating people on cages rather than those damn rear shock tower pieces of **** people are buying now a days

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice_classic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Are you willing to shell out 500$ for something that isn't proven?


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when you are trying for the bling factor $1,000,000 is worth it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erikiksaz1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The string method would be pretty hard to test. If anything, i don't think the chassis would flex that much to begin with. If i say that though, i may very well open up another discussion as to whether or not the chassis even needs to be stiffened up (some race buddies of mine have told me they make no difference).

Anyways, if you were to use the strings, you would need some sort of quick release system, so that they fall off the instant they're tweaked. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Brilliant.. we will devise something of this nature and report back (obviously this report will be in a new thread!)

 

haha, Rice they just dont get it. Let them go waste 500 hard earned dollers on something that just sits back there and looks pretty.