upgrading brakes with OEM
dosent sound like to much of an "upgrade" if you wanna keep alll your stock stuff. Bigger is not always better, especially if you are not upgrading things like the MC, and prop. valve. Just get a good set of slotted rotors and some nice pads.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crexer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dosent sound like to much of an "upgrade" if you wanna keep alll your stock stuff. Bigger is not always better, especially if you are not upgrading things like the MC, and prop. valve. Just get a good set of slotted rotors and some nice pads.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He's right (except for the slotted rotor comment).
Unless you upgrade the caliper/pad there is no benefit in upgrading the rotor because you will still have the same heat buildup in the caliper/pad.
You're best bet is to upgrade rotor/caliper together. You can do the 10.3 civic ex upgrade or you can do what I did and get the fast brakes kit which is an 11" rotor with Integra Calipers. I've used this setup on MANY of track days and not once did I have to worry about my brakes.
He's right (except for the slotted rotor comment).
Unless you upgrade the caliper/pad there is no benefit in upgrading the rotor because you will still have the same heat buildup in the caliper/pad.
You're best bet is to upgrade rotor/caliper together. You can do the 10.3 civic ex upgrade or you can do what I did and get the fast brakes kit which is an 11" rotor with Integra Calipers. I've used this setup on MANY of track days and not once did I have to worry about my brakes.
Well the answer is you can't go any larger without replacing the calipers. Better pads go a LONG way in making the brakes better, it's really amazing. I still hate stock honda brakes and my weenie rotors, so 11.1" rotors are in my future.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crexer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dosent sound like to much of an "upgrade" if you wanna keep alll your stock stuff. Bigger is not always better, especially if you are not upgrading things like the MC, and prop. valve. Just get a good set of slotted rotors and some nice pads.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I totally agree
I totally agree
I think that the 92-5 Civic DX rotors are the same diameter but THICKER (14mm v.s. 12mm???) than the 88-91 rotors. Also, I think http://www.fastbrakes.com offers a bigger diameter oem rotor and caliper brackets for your car so you can keep the stock calipers but use a bigger diameter oem rotor. Email the fastbrakes guy, he knows all the options. You would have to "space out" your stock caliper to use a larger diameter rotor.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crexer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well that totally strays away from his original need but whats wrong with slotted rotors???
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I have them on my car so I shouldn't talk smack but with todays technology in brake pads there's just no need. The more surface your pad touches the more friction it encounters, also you can find many people that will say slotted rotors are only good for eating up pads (and most of these people have been racing cars for years).
Feel free to ask around though, make sure to ask the people who use them in an actual "road racing application"... if you can find any. They cost more and don't improve anything therefore where performance meets cost-effectiveness you are at a loss.
They are for show... like on my car! I have big, 11" slotted rotors on my crx cuz it's blingin' yo!
</TD></TR></TABLE>I have them on my car so I shouldn't talk smack but with todays technology in brake pads there's just no need. The more surface your pad touches the more friction it encounters, also you can find many people that will say slotted rotors are only good for eating up pads (and most of these people have been racing cars for years).
Feel free to ask around though, make sure to ask the people who use them in an actual "road racing application"... if you can find any. They cost more and don't improve anything therefore where performance meets cost-effectiveness you are at a loss.
They are for show... like on my car! I have big, 11" slotted rotors on my crx cuz it's blingin' yo!
I have slotted rotors too
although i have not got the change to road race my car at all this year due to engine problems with the zc so . . . time for a k series
although i have not got the change to road race my car at all this year due to engine problems with the zc so . . . time for a k series
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxdx89 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is the biggest rotor upgrade for a crx with steelies with OEM honda rotors, keeping the stock crx knuckles, calipers etc etc....
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by NOT changing those (or spending bling on fastbrakes) just do what i said above.
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by NOT changing those (or spending bling on fastbrakes) just do what i said above.
I have slotted/drilled rotors all around. I hate it. I am waiting for some DA front knuckles to come around. Then I will change it all to blanks with nice pads. Slotted are good only for looks. Great pads are a better upgrade.
why do you "hate" your slotted rotors? I have slotted brembos and aem ceramic pads for goin on 2 years and they have plenty of meat left. Dosent the slot on the rotor refresh the pad and keep buildup from forming between the pad and rotor causing squeeks? You guys keep talking about road race applications and stuff like that but the original poster said nothing about road racing or extreme braking components.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crexer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why do you "hate" your slotted rotors? I have slotted brembos and aem ceramic pads for goin on 2 years and they have plenty of meat left. Dosent the slot on the rotor refresh the pad and keep buildup from forming between the pad and rotor causing squeeks? You guys keep talking about road race applications and stuff like that but the original poster said nothing about road racing or extreme braking components.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're right that he doesn't need to worry about road racing applications but in a case where slotted rotors might cost more then blank rotors, he should go with blanks. Slotted rotors don't increase the life of your pads. Slotted rotos also don't last as long because since the rotor now has an inconsistency (slots) in the surface it will be more prone to develop cracks and that could ultimately require them to be replaced earlier then say, a blank rotor.
This is just a lot of really uselss info because you're not racing and you're not spending 150$ on pads so you don't have to worry about either one. If you want the look of slotted rotors (like us fast brakes users have) then go for it. I don't think there is anything wrong with them... they just aren't a "performance increaser" by any means. Just want that information to be clear.
Information needs to be displayed on the information super highway.
You're right that he doesn't need to worry about road racing applications but in a case where slotted rotors might cost more then blank rotors, he should go with blanks. Slotted rotors don't increase the life of your pads. Slotted rotos also don't last as long because since the rotor now has an inconsistency (slots) in the surface it will be more prone to develop cracks and that could ultimately require them to be replaced earlier then say, a blank rotor.
This is just a lot of really uselss info because you're not racing and you're not spending 150$ on pads so you don't have to worry about either one. If you want the look of slotted rotors (like us fast brakes users have) then go for it. I don't think there is anything wrong with them... they just aren't a "performance increaser" by any means. Just want that information to be clear.
Information needs to be displayed on the information super highway.
If you go with the EX knuckles, the 94+ Integra calipers & rotors bolt up with no machining necessary. This combination will fit under Honda factory 14" steel wheels. More than enough braking for the track, if you want to go there.
IMO, 11.1" upgrade is a lot of extra weight, and requires 15" wheels.
If you want to use your stock calipers, contact FASTBRAKES, as mentioned by user keithg above.
IMO, 11.1" upgrade is a lot of extra weight, and requires 15" wheels.
If you want to use your stock calipers, contact FASTBRAKES, as mentioned by user keithg above.
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90-91 civic 4dr EX.
90-91 civic 4dr EX.
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90-91 civic 4dr EX.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, that is correct. You must use the 90-91 civic 4dr EX knuckles as stated above to physically mount the 94+ Integra calipers & rotors. Again, no machining is necessary.
90-91 civic 4dr EX.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, that is correct. You must use the 90-91 civic 4dr EX knuckles as stated above to physically mount the 94+ Integra calipers & rotors. Again, no machining is necessary.
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