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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Default I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP

I have pirelli tires, model # P7000, 225/45/17, on the car. One of the tires has a

small hole in the freaking side wall, no way of repairing or is there a way? The

tires is only five month old, WTF. So I call TireRack.com for a replacement and

guess what, the P7000 has been discontinued--great move pirelli!!

Where else can I look for a replacement? I already tried E-Bay and

Discountire.com with no luck.

Thanks!!!!
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (EX-JAY)

go to a tire shop and have them plug the hole, ive never had this done, but ive heard it works great
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (EX-JAY)

i worked at Firestone, if the hole is in the sidewall you cant repair it. its like putting a bandaid on your knuckle, itll come off. if you like i can send you a discount card from Firestone, you would basically get the employee discount and pay 10% above cost for the tires
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (95Accordster)

yeah 95Accordster is right, you cant repair sidewall damage
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (ACC0RD22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACC0RD22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go to a tire shop and have them plug the hole, ive never had this done, but ive heard it works great</TD></TR></TABLE>

side wall damage are non-repairable. Dont argue.
it's not repairable by the nature of it's design.
if you have a chance to look at the contruction of the Passenger "R" type of tires you'll get what i am saying.

since the piece you have is junk, replacement would be your best bet.

call them couple more time and see if they can squeeze out the closest price replacement.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (EX-JAY)

Cool guys, I will go ahead and buy just one pair of other tire brand, can't afford to replace all four at once.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (EX-JAY)

Hmm my sisters boyfreind has like 5 plugs on his sidewall. I know thats ghetto but itsholding up for him.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm my sisters boyfreind has like 5 plugs on his sidewall. I know thats ghetto but itsholding up for him.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your sisters boyfriend is an idiot.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm my sisters boyfreind has like 5 plugs on his sidewall. I know thats ghetto but itsholding up for him.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am surprise the shop would do that, it must be some run-down shady place with no ASE cert. program at all.

well, unless your sisters' boyfriend is driving a semi(bias-belted, diagonal bias tires)
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Im sure he did it himself. I was always making fun of him about it. Now im really gonna bash bc i didnt know you wernt supposed to do it.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Damn dude that sucks, theres a buncha Kuhmo tires for around 100 a tire that feel comprible to the pirellis, I've had both and the Kuhmo ecstas are great for the money
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (matix)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im sure he did it himself. I was always making fun of him about it. Now im really gonna bash bc i didnt know you wernt supposed to do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

in California its actually against the law to plug tires at all (shops still do it, esp. gas stations) because of the fact that on long trips air leaks, and when the PSI gets too low........BAM *ROLL *TUMBLE *ROLL , you get a blowout. At my shop we would plug and patch, thats the best way
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (Stryknaccord)

I bought 205/40/17 Kumho Ecsta MX for $61.00 ea from Tirerack.com.

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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iam7head &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

side wall damage are non-repairable. Dont argue.
it's not repairable by the nature of it's design.
if you have a chance to look at the contruction of the Passenger "R" type of tires you'll get what i am saying.

since the piece you have is junk, replacement would be your best bet.

call them couple more time and see if they can squeeze out the closest price replacement.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wasnt gonna argue, so dont worry about it, i know nothing about tires
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (ACC0RD22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACC0RD22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wasnt gonna argue, so dont worry about it, i know nothing about tires</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then don't offer advice if you don't know what you're talking about; plain and simple. (trying to not sound like a dick)

I would call tirerack and see what is a direct replacement for the tire, pirelli or not; and see if tirerack can work with you on the price .
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 04:17 AM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (EX-JAY)

Well, after wrenching for over 30 years, I can say you CAN patch a sidewall. You cannot use a plug, but you CAN use a patch from the inside and it does hold and is effective. Looks like a bicycle tube patch. However, it is only good on small punctures, no large holes or tears.

If you want a replacment, try:

http://www.vulcantire.com/pire...relli

http://www.1010tires.com/Pirel....html

https://www.tiresavings.com/ti...gular

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (Escobar)

I had Kuhmo's before and like them a lot. What do you guys think about the ECTSA Supra 712. Are they a good buy?
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (Hondaman56)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondaman56 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, after wrenching for over 30 years, I can say you CAN patch a sidewall. You cannot use a plug, but you CAN use a patch from the inside and it does hold and is effective. Looks like a bicycle tube patch. However, it is only good on small punctures, no large holes or tears.


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we never really practiced that at our shop, too much of a liability. But that's just me
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (Hondaman56)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondaman56 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, after wrenching for over 30 years, I can say you CAN patch a sidewall. You cannot use a plug, but you CAN use a patch from the inside and it does hold and is effective. Looks like a bicycle tube patch. However, it is only good on small punctures, no large holes or tears.

If you want a replacment, try:

http://www.vulcantire.com/pire...relli

http://www.1010tires.com/Pirel....html

https://www.tiresavings.com/ti...gular

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.....and how many times has your shop been sued??
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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Default Re: I am so done, need your help regarding tires ASAP (darkslide_77)

There is just WAY too big of a liability to patching a sidewall. You CAN patch a sidewall, but then again you CAN jump off a five story building, neither of the aforementionned being good ideas of course.

The rule we use is the rule of thumb, if the hole in question is in, or within one thumb width of the sidewall, we refuse to fix it. Simple as that, the customer can either ride on a donut or buy a new tire.

I mean really, look at it from a shops perspective: We patch a a hole in a sidewall for a customer. Said custom (we'll call him Bob) goes out on the highway and the patch blows on him. Bob freaks and loses control of his car, smashes into some other people before coming to a fatal stop.

Now when the authorities investigate what happened, and they find out that said shop (eg: Jim's automotive) patched the sidewall of a tire on Bob's car; and even worse, when they find out this was the cause of the accident...Well let's just say Jim's auto is going to have their hands full.

I know the scenario seems far fetched, but all it would take is one incident like that to bankrupt a shop.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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wow...one thumb....that's brave....

we always said that if it is outsid ethe outermost rain channel, no-can-do, and when we do patch tires, we use a patch-plug combo, just to be safe
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Well obviously you use your good judgement. Like I said 1 thumb = no patch+plug no matter what, but beyond that it's up to each idivudual tech to use his good judgement and discretion.
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