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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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I don't know if anyone else has this problem but on every bike I've owned I've had issues getting my bike into neutral at a dead stop. Like for instance say I stall out in first gear.. I have tried turning off the bike, letting go of the clutch lever and sometimes I just can't get that sucker back in neutral to get it started up again! It also happens if I park my bike in gear for a second and then try to start it back up by getting it into neutral. I've noticed this problem more and more with my kawasaki than my yamaha but both have this issue once in a while. Any insights?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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I just put mine in first, and go up 1/2 a click, f thatmakes any sence
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crankdriven &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just put mine in first, and go up 1/2 a click, f thatmakes any sence</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well right that is the way it's supposed to be done but the problem is it won't go up half a click.. in fact it's stuck in a particular gear. I have no issues getting it into neutral while I'm riding and downshifting but say I downshift into 2nd instead of 1st at a red light.. then i stall.. I sometimes cannot get it back into 1st and then click half up.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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Ever think of having a shop check it out?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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First of all, why the hell are you stalling out so often n00b

Seriously though what I do from a stop if I cant get it in neutral is put it in first and slowly roll the bike forward. This usually helps, even if the bike is barely moving it makes it easier to get it in gear.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know if anyone else has this problem but on every bike I've owned I've had issues getting my bike into neutral at a dead stop. Like for instance say I stall out in first gear.. I have tried turning off the bike, letting go of the clutch lever and sometimes I just can't get that sucker back in neutral to get it started up again! It also happens if I park my bike in gear for a second and then try to start it back up by getting it into neutral. I've noticed this problem more and more with my kawasaki than my yamaha but both have this issue once in a while. Any insights?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Rock your bike forward and backwards.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Rock your bike forward and backwards.</TD></TR></TABLE>



And downshift till you can't go any further not just till you "think" your in first.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crankdriven &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ever think of having a shop check it out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have two bikes (different make and model) and they both do the same thing.. coincidence?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have two bikes (different make and model) and they both do the same thing.. coincidence?</TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe it's not the bike, just you? maybe you're tapping it too hard
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MilanoRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

maybe it's not the bike, just you? maybe you're tapping it too hard</TD></TR></TABLE>

tapping it too hard?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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Same exact thing would happen to me occasionally on my 04 R6 (bought it new). It would happen within a week of owning it. Not often, but from time to time.

From what I hear it's normal, try rocking the bike back and forth and it should go into neutral.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

tapping it too hard? </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha yeah I knock it down to first gear, then just tap the shifter up once and it pops right into neutral... never had any problems with any bikes. Could be that nice yammy transmission
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mag00n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all, why the hell are you stalling out so often n00b

Seriously though what I do from a stop if I cant get it in neutral is put it in first and slowly roll the bike forward. This usually helps, even if the bike is barely moving it makes it easier to get it in gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ding ding ding.
Its probably you. Just keep practicing. Try switching to a full synthetic and see how it shifts, trust me you'll like it (unless its a dry clutch bike like a duc)
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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They told me at MSF that it is always much easier to get the bike in Neutral while it's moving. However I don't have an issue doing it while moving or stopped.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rock your bike forward and backwards.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep!
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MilanoRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Could be that nice yammy transmission </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've noticed this problem more and more with my kawasaki than my yamaha but both have this issue once in a while. </TD></TR></TABLE>

...but i agree with scarey. rock your bike back and forth and it should be easier to get into neutral.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Rock your bike forward and backwards.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:19 AM
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I always have my bike in neutral just before coming to a comlete stop... goes like this... rolling up to a light downshifting, grab clutch and pop into neutral with the same motion, come to a complete stop with right hand front brake, put right toe on the ground.. never remove your hand from the clutch lever or the front brake lever brake lever.... even when riding
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">never remove your hand from the clutch lever or the front brake lever brake lever.... even when riding </TD></TR></TABLE>

its been a while since i took the course, but dont they usually tell you not to keep your hands on there all the time. new riders will be prone to riding the clutch and break then
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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I never said keep depressed...
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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And by the by... I hope none of your are using all for fingers for braking or clutch engagement??? Please train yourself to use only one to two fingers for these opperations, that way you will always have at least the other fingers still wrapped around the grip. for some it will be a hard thing to do, but you will thank me later
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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im not saying you said to keep it depressed. But I coulda sworn they taught new riders to not even touch the brake and clutch unless you need to. With resting fingers on it they might tend to ride the functions.

I could be wrong though. its been a few years. I know I do what you stated for the most part.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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It has been a few years since I took the course, but I think they teach you to cover the brake not the clutch.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not saying you said to keep it depressed. But I coulda sworn they taught new riders to not even touch the brake and clutch unless you need to. With resting fingers on it they might tend to ride the functions.

I could be wrong though. its been a few years. I know I do what you stated for the most part.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Feel free to listen to whatever safety coursers tell you,
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