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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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So a while back, when I needed some bill money, I swapped my stock MY04 wheels for some MY01 wheels + $800.

Now, after realizing that for some odd reason, my wheels looked "sucked" into the car, I did some research and found out that the 01 wheels are thinner than the 04's by exactly 1 inch, both front and back.

My question is, what would solve this problem (other than swapping back to the 04's)? Would a set of front and back H&R 15 mm spacers do the trick? Or could I get by with the 5mm ones? I like the look of the 01's and the fact that I would save money on some tires as well. Any tips?


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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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measure from the edge of the tire to the edge of the fender..... that should give you an idea of the size spacers you need.....

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you may also need longer studs
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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So in essence, since the 03 wheels are about an inch thinner than the 04's, than I would need at minimum, a 1 inch spacer.

Would longer studs be necessary?

It's almost becoming not worth it at all, being I can swap back to stock 04's for my rims + $400...
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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try measuring the way i showed you....

yes, the rims are wider, but the offset is what changes how far in or out the wheel sits........

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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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Okay, just measured.

Its a bit more than a quarter of an inch.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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1 inch is about 25mm. If you run anything more than 4-5mm, you'll need longer wheel studs which means you'll need your hubs pulled, need to buy new wheel bearings since the old ones get damaged when you press out the hubs, then press in the new assembly. It's not a cheap mod.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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Thanks Vapor.

Another question though, I might be wrong that the wheels are sucked in.

I have the RSR Ti2000 springs and have yet to get an alignment, so my wheels are like this / \ .

An alignment should fix the issue and in turn, fix the sucked in look that the top of the wheel gets, correct?

Also, what settings do you recommend, OEM?
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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an alignment will help, but factory wheels tend to sit further inward, than say an afternarket wheel.....
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Thanks guys for all the help.

I'll get an alignment and report back
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PNB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks Vapor.

Another question though, I might be wrong that the wheels are sucked in.

I have the RSR Ti2000 springs and have yet to get an alignment, so my wheels are like this / \ .

An alignment should fix the issue and in turn, fix the sucked in look that the top of the wheel gets, correct?

Also, what settings do you recommend, OEM? </TD></TR></TABLE>
What you're describing is camber and that's a good friend to track junkies and auto-x'ers as it improves slip angles at the track and maximizes the contact patch while going around a turn. Downsides to having lots of negative camber, tire wear on the inner portion of the tire if the car is a daily driver. An alignment shop can help even out tire wear by setting some toe in but that's about it.

The alignment shop will try to reduce your camber to stock settings but you will most likely max out the adjustment points on the car. If you lower the car, be prepared to have a little more camber than stock. The look will be exaggerated with running smaller diameter wheels, narrower wheels, etc etc etc
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vapor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What you're describing is camber and that's a good friend to track junkies and auto-x'ers as it improves slip angles at the track and maximizes the contact patch while going around a turn. Downsides to having lots of negative camber, tire wear on the inner portion of the tire if the car is a daily driver. An alignment shop can help even out tire wear by setting some toe in but that's about it.

The alignment shop will try to reduce your camber to stock settings but you will most likely max out the adjustment points on the car. If you lower the car, be prepared to have a little more camber than stock. The look will be exaggerated with running smaller diameter wheels, narrower wheels, etc etc etc</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ah, sorry for sounding so ignorant. I knew it was camber, but for some reason, never stated it. It seems that I have a HUGE amount of negative camber, much more than I want or need, since I really don't track the car at all. I just want the car back to the neutral stock settings, which should fix some of my problems.

Also, I am getting crazy inner tire wear from the damn camber too, so just another reason why I need it "fixed".
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PNB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ah, sorry for sounding so ignorant. I knew it was camber, but for some reason, never stated it. It seems that I have a HUGE amount of negative camber, much more than I want or need, since I really don't track the car at all. I just want the car back to the neutral stock settings, which should fix some of my problems.

Also, I am getting crazy inner tire wear from the damn camber too, so just another reason why I need it "fixed". </TD></TR></TABLE>
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