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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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ya so i might have hydro locked my motor i dont know yet, once i saw how high the water was wich was barely barely under my front bumper , and when a car passed me i could feel the water hitting the under side of my car, so before that i had turn my car off and hit my flashers , im just wondering if it happens to be hydro locked would getting the motor rebuilt fix it, or do i have to get a new motor, and i have exactly $1050.00 right now in cash , so i need to know what to do, if i can get my engine rebuilt awsome i dont have to barrow any money..plz only give advise and suggestions if you know exactly what the hell you are talking about cuz this is pretty ******* serious to me and dotn want to wast my time reading bull **** replys...help
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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take off your plugs and crank the car if you dare. It will help you motor relieve some water out. Don't worry too much dude. With one grand...you will be fine. If i were you, i would start taking the head apart and start inspecting internals.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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what motor you have in there? Chances are you're fine with the way you describe.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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i would take off your intake and see if any water comes out..

then pull the plug wires out of the head and manually crank over your motor see if you can see any water in there..

then repost up here so we can go from there..
i have hydrolocked my motor so i can only try to help
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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ok here is the update so it stoped rainign and i went back to my car a few miles away in a drive way i took my intake off at the middle clamps water rushed out then i took it off at the tb while pushing down at the other end of the intake to keep water from rolling into my im. more water rushed out, all totall id say a few cups of water, im not going to crank my car , i know it is fucked right now i took the plugs out so that it can evaporate some what, i dont have the proper tools to manually crank my motor, pretty much im xpecting to have to replace my motor so im prolly going to get a b16 and right now i got a b18a its a 91 ls, this **** sucs so much *** i thoguht that since i turned my car off the second i saw how high the water was id be fine but i guess not,........hmm would a b16 be a better uprage from a b18 i know it has less torque but the 30 extra hp is nice
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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you can always rebuild your motor w/ the money you have.

make sure your crank is good. if so then rebuild it some new pistons and stuff you will be on your way to enjoying you car again..

then i would get rid of the cold air IMO
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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one step ahead of you buddy , the cai is no more, i threw the 2nd part that goes down into ur bumper in the ******* trash,

ok so a engine rebuild would fix it, i need a list of what to do here, asin parts, this is my first time hydro locking my motor, after this im getting a truck for rainy days,

so far this is what i have to pick of

new motor--- b16
and an engine rebuild, but if the crank is fucked thats going to cost alittle pricey .. but if i rebuild the engine i can get some power added as well, ..so can you list what all i should lookin to
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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oh btw as to the guy who said dont worry with a grand i shouldnt have to much of a problem well my clutch is about to crap out to its slipping real bad so maybe kill 2 birds with one stone order a b16 with ecu, motor, tranny, since it only has 40 to 50 thousand miles on it, im sure the clutch would prolly be in better shap then mine
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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1. have the crank checked
if good go for rebuild
if not go b16
2. look into differnt pistons and comp ratios
look into differnt engine shops and what they can do and the price of taking new pistons specing them installing them and doing the block work and then the reassembly
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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or look into some used blocks here on ht in the for sale section..
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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ok im going to start with getting the crank looked at if its good im going to go try and do a rebuild, if not then b16 and vtec here i come, lol im kinda hopen that my crank is going to messed up so i can get a b16
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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ok just confirmed it
tomorrow i need to find a shop here in austin, tx that is damn good and wont make me pimp my self out on a corner
let them look at the car, if a rebuild is able to be done i plan on using alittle of this money for either cam shafts, or pistons and connecting rods, either way this is a blessing this hydro lock bull **** cuz i can either get a new motor or some serious interal upgrades, so its not so bad to me
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by txracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one step ahead of you buddy , the cai is no more, i threw the 2nd part that goes down into ur bumper in the ******* trash, </TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn... I've been looking everywhere for that piece lol. Sorry to hear about the engine, did you have any sort of bypass valve on there? I'm guessing not... we just had an amazing amount of rain for the LV area and my whole street was flooded. It sucks cuz at night w/ no street lights it's hard to tell how deep the water is, and I almost got stuck in the same situation, luckily I pulled through.

I say rebuild your b18, just because you could put the money into getting it running like new, and keep the lil bit extra torque you have. I've been fighting over the XSi swap and just keeping the b18a and I think I'm starting to like the b18a better...

GL w/ the rebuild and everything from here on out.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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well from what i saw the water on the road was high yes but i figured i could make i just gave enoguh gas to be able to let the clutch out, and then just barely rolled through it it wasnt untill i felt the little waves slappin the underside of my car that i grabed my key turned my **** off hit my flashers and told the 3 or so people ehind to go around me, and had some one wtih a truck gental pushed me from the rear through the water and up this drive way and thats where my baby sits, and no i dont have a bypass valve but with this money i got i was going to get a me a bypass valve and this flooding happened in 20 minutes i left it started raining to hard so i pulled over to let the raining let up when it did i turned around and went home and the fuckign water was high as hell, i love the b18 but i kinda want vtec cuz b18's suck *** top end wise and i know vtec helps out with that..so ya there is the storie of my day
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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I know what u mean bout instant flooding, that's all that happens out here. It went from being really clear when I was at my g/f's house to being a river by the time I got home and a flood in the morning. I'm amazed at the puddles I made it through cuz I was literally close to being up to my headlights in water.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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how can the water be that high and you drive through it with out messing something up, and um just a simple rebuild can fix this hydrolocking problem of mine? i hope so cuz i could upgrade some internals while im at it

can any one list what internal mod will give you the most power?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by txracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how can the water be that high and you drive through it with out messing something up</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well... I don't have a CAI yet so I guess I'm lucky, but the fact that I had an e-bay intake actually saved me cuz the stock box would have sucked water through the front vent. I don't know how... but I'm still thankful.

As far as mods go, it depends on what you want to do. From what I've read hydrolocking mostly bends valves, so you could look into new valve springs and retainers, and do some head work. You could also get new pistons. There are a lot of options... and many I haven't researched so I can't really go into detail. Sorry bout that, but I'm sure there's plenty of H-T members willing to help.

Bump for you.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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a rebuilt is a bit of seperation time though if this is your only car. if so a motor swap may be your best bet.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 05:44 AM
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depends who is doing the swap to..

pistons are you best gain w/ a balanced crank and roating assembly..
then cams
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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I also hydrolock my car, such a pain in the ***. But I was going to do a few upgrades to my car anyways. What kinda power your lookin for?? Where do u wanna go with your car? Let us know, so we can help you out. B16**thumps down** not enough tq. for your car. Just stay with the b18 and if you really want vtec, you can put it in later on. Good luck
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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well ive been on the phone with shops for the most part of this mourning, ive told that rebuilds dont do that well in honda acura motors, and um if i have to do a swap im going to go with a b 16 due to price 1299.00 plus 260 for shipping

what would be a decent price rang for labor ive never had a motor swap done, ive been quoted 1500 wich seems kinda high considering its pretty much a direct drop in jsut gotta wire up vtec
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Don't! I had an NA b16 in my teg, gsr head, I/H/E Venom intake manifold, p30 pistons, and it sucked, noooo torque at all. Deff. go with a GSR shortblock, or go b16 turbo.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't! I had an NA b16 in my teg, gsr head, I/H/E Venom intake manifold, p30 pistons, and it sucked, noooo torque at all. Deff. go with a GSR shortblock, or go b16 turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
money is an issue..

and who ever you talked to about rebuiling honda motors... they are kinda full of ****...
so many people on here have built or rebuilt motors that are just fine
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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just keep in mind that the price for a b18a/b block complete is cheap as hell about 100-500. DON"T BUY THE B16...you will kick yourself in the *** if you go with that route. Heavy integra with a torqueless motor is not fun to drive. Until vtec hit...you will be basically driving a d16 civic with a 200 lb girl in the back
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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I'm sorry to hear of another hydrolock.

Please help me (and others) spread the word.. CAI's are not worth it. Spend your money on something that will make power, like a chip or cams.
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