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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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Hi, i have such a bad traction. just happen yesterday. im driving an accord 94 with jdm h22a lsd tranny. a dc sport strut, aerospeed coil-over, with yokohama tires for stock rims. frist time i launch my car (racing with a 98 prelude). first i launch at 3.5k. i have suck a bad traction, my wheel hops like crazy. the second time i try at 4k its even wrost, wheels hop so bad the car wouldnt go. and now my car sound bad seems like it got no power . anybody know whats wrong with my car. any advice would be nice. thankyou.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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blown shocks?

busted motor mount?

bad driver?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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Who learn you spoke ?

You seriously need to re-read before you post.

You need better suspension is what it sounds like. And dont just dump the clutch, feather it a little bit till you feel it start to catch, then let it out and give it some gas.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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sorry about the bad writting. any way could i have done something bad to my motor internally? Because as right now my car sounds bad and hardly have any power when i try to accelerate. All i do is launch and have wheel hops, plus i didnt even choke or redline my motor.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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esl?

mabye if your car's having so many problems then IMO you shouldn't be drag launching it untill you go to a shop and have it fixed.

tires and size?


Modified by max8455 at 1:28 PM 11/22/2004
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daboi630 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blown shocks?

busted motor mount?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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I have the same problem. Im aiming toward my tokico and eibach springs being the problem. I think the eibachs are causing it bc they are so soft. They are the 1.2 inch drop and when i punch it the back of my car squats like 4 inches. I was thinking some stiffer springs rates would help???
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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most likely, in the launch u want a good amount of the cars weigh keepign those tires down, (stiffer springs and better struts)....also like 98typeSH said, dont just drop your clucth over and over if your havign this problem, feather off rather quickly instead, its all feeling. EVEN after u have the best suspension and LSD, (and tires, even though your prob is wheel HOP not spin) it still comes down to the driver
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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what rpm should i be launching at with the lsd?
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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When im at the track i launch in vtec. I slip the clutch and usually make it so all the power gets to the ground right away with no spinning. I cant let it break loose bc then I get wheel hop. I did pull consistent 2.2 and a couple 2.1 with this method for my 60' time.I wanna get rid of wheel hop so i can spin a little of the line the make it grab right in vtec, I think this would get the best 60' time bc you will grab your tires right in the powerband.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When im at the track i launch in vtec. I slip the clutch and usually make it so all the power gets to the ground right away with no spinning. I cant let it break loose bc then I get wheel hop. .</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you mean by slip the clutch. do you release the clutch all the way or what?and what do you mean by you dont want to break loose because that would cause wheel hops.
i dont get it please explain.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord-lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what do you mean by slip the clutch. do you release the clutch all the way or what?and what do you mean by you dont want to break loose because that would cause wheel hops.
i dont get it please explain.</TD></TR></TABLE>

go read about basic car terminology, google is your friend, if you dont know what slipping a clutch means, im kinda shocked u knew enough to get an h22a installed
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Nick M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

go read about basic car terminology, google is your friend, if you dont know what slipping a clutch means, im kinda shocked u knew enough to get an h22a installed</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is the problem...so many people see the "h22 swap" title and go pay a shop to do it for them....not like us who actually took the time to learn how to do this stuff and did it ourselves or simply couldnt because of certain tool/time constraints.....i give props to all the do it yourself-ers on here......

now....as far as all this garbage goes....you guys are letting the clutch out way too fast....i have some shitty kumho touring tires on my lude and ES mounts and i can launch my car with no wheel hop/little spin at all.....you dont need to land in vtec on the launch....you cant do that with a streetable setup, you spin too much and get away with a terrible time, not to mention eating the **** out of your clutch....

try launching at like 3.5k and letting the clutch out and progressively giving more throttle, but SLOWLY!

get it to the point that you get full grip until the last few instants of having the clutch in just a little and the gas is close to floored....if you learn to do it good, you will grip all the way until the clutch is 90% out and the gas is 75% in, and then you will get a couple little chirps as your releasing the last little bit of clutch, and flooring it, and then the clutch is 100% out and your on your way....
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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well said!!!
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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your launching way too high lsd or not....i launched at 1,500 rpms the other day on my h23, and spun all of 1st and it continued into 1/2 of second.....but that is with some shitty deltas...if i launch any higher is like launching in the rain...it sucks! oh and try to feather it..
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hOndafienD 04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your launching way too high lsd or not....i launched at 1,500 rpms the other day on my h23, and spun all of 1st and it continued into 1/2 of second.....but that is with some shitty deltas...if i launch any higher is like launching in the rain...it sucks! oh and try to feather it..</TD></TR></TABLE>
At 1500 rpms i would just bog out with my traction. I have falken azenis at 18 psi and the best launching point with the lsd and these tires i would say is about 5k. I have a very agressive clutch also. How am i launching too high. If i was luanching too high i wouldnt be pulling 2.1 60' times in a 3000 pound car.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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i was talking to accord-lude :-) sorry
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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oh ok yea it does sounds like hes launching too high for his setup.
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