well i had plans on swapping an h22 into my 91 crx, but after i talked to a guy about it here that has done it he says its not worth the hassle and to just do a B swap, so now, im either gonna do a 94-95 gsr swap, or buy an ls and turbo it.. which one do you think would be better a better swap...this will be my summer daily driver.

 

Turbo > anything.

 

Has been discussed, it all comes down to budget

 

Honestly id go with Non Aspiration products. Id probably just do a supercharger though.....Ive heard that if turbos arent installed Precisely correct, they can totally screw your car. Just my Opinion

 

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It's Naturally Aspirated son; if you don't install any product right that is related to your motors day to day functioning you can screw it over

 

Na, you can do a low budget setup for a decent cost. and it will be worth it. IMO superchargers are ok but not as good as a turbo. there are many more write-ups and how-tos for a turbocharger than a supercharger

 

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Please don't talk untill you know more.

 

LS turbo for sure

The car in my sig cost me $3500 to build including the cost of the car. It is my daily driver and I feel that it is just as reliable as when it was NA.

Phil

 

If done right, A turbo motor can last longer than N/A

 

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Just shut up...please...

If all is equal...build quality etc... The aspirated engine WILL last longer. Think of how much stress is on an FI engine...

You can't tell me that an engine with more stress will last longer than the same one with less stress.

 

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This doesn't make sense at all. Turbocharging a car puts more stress then normal on the engine internally. It really contradicts itself. How can forcing an engine to work harder make it last longer? That's like saying a sprinter can sprint farther then a marathon runner can run. It just doesn't equate.

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Extremely stupid post. "Non Aspiration"????? It's "naturally aspirated"..."non aspirated" means that there's no air going into the engine. Anything not installed "precisely correct" can "totally screw your car". Stupid stupid stupid.

 

I hope what he meant was that when you turbo your engine it is very common to upgrade internal components where when many people do bolt on NA they often leave their bottom end stock. A freshly built bottom end and more power to boot is better any day. If you want a lot of power and can deal with the fact that your car may run into some problems that will cost you money, go turbo, you'll love it.

 

A high whp N/A engine is just as succeptible to detonation, preignition, what have you, as a forced induction engine. If all is done correctly you shouldn't have to worry about either excessivly.

Edit- you're also comparing apples to oranges on many levels. Consider both engines put out the same power and you're going to have one high-strung N/A engine assuming the F/I engine is making substantial power.

 

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This doesn't make sense at all. Turbocharging a car puts more stress then normal on the engine internally. It really contradicts itself. How can forcing an engine to work harder make it last longer? That's like saying a sprinter can sprint farther then a marathon runner can run. It just doesn't equate.

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Just shut up...please...

If all is equal...build quality etc... The aspirated engine WILL last longer. Think of how much stress is on an FI engine...

You can't tell me that an engine with more stress will last longer than the same one with less stress.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe I should have explained my "If done right". I was talking about a properly done bottom end motor along with sleeves etc..etc.. not just bolting on the turbo on to a stock motor. I thought you fellas would have understood what I meant. Man you people are harsh... And yes a built N/A motor would out last a built FI motor... good

 

its all about personal preference and money. i was gonna do an all motor d series, but when u think of getting high compression pistons, springs,retainers,cam,headwork, labor, u have a pretty expensive build. so i went for the turbo setup. went to the junkyard and built a kit for very cheap.

probe turbo,intercooler,saab and volvo intercooler piping,fittings, couplers,$80
picked up an oil line and fittings $40
dsm 450s $50
fpr free, and i did all the labor
picking up a afc next week

so i pretty much got everything done for under $300
anyway ive def joined the darkside, way more fun to drive, u jsut need to keep up with maintenance, and tuning.

 

mr gasket gsport is coming out with a low comp 8:1 2 liter dart long block with a 1 year 12 k mile gaurantee.

Start with that.

I don't know what turbo kit to recommend.

Motor is 12k$

Easy 350+ street whp should be safe with that motor. prolly a lot more..add NOS to it too...

 

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Start with that.

I don't know what turbo kit to recommend.

Motor is 12k$

Easy 350+ street whp should be safe with that motor. prolly a lot more..add NOS to it too...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I really hope you are being sarcastic, 34$ per HP without the cost of car or turbo parts, what a waste, but hell if you're adding NOS!!!! everything should be all good.

 

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Start with that.

I don't know what turbo kit to recommend.

Motor is 12k$

Easy 350+ street whp should be safe with that motor. prolly a lot more..add NOS to it too...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Holy Jebus, I can start looking for a new car for the price of that block.

Ohh, and that is more then my car sold for new.

 

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I really hope you are being sarcastic, 34$ per HP without the cost of car or turbo parts, what a waste, but hell if you're adding NOS!!!! everything should be all good. </TD></TR></TABLE>

While we're on that topic, he should put in some VTACK!!! too...

 

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I really hope you are being sarcastic, 34$ per HP without the cost of car or turbo parts, what a waste, but hell if you're adding NOS!!!! everything should be all good. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was being 1/2 sarcastic. there was a time during the dot com days when I would have put that thing in my CRX, and found a turbo guru to do the turbo setup. then I would have done a frame off (well I know there's no frame) restoration of my CRX. was on track to buy a twin turbo porsche (not kidding) till worldcomm went south. nother guy i worked with (installed networks. a pure front line tech grunt) lost over 2 mill in options for 3 network companies...

is all relative...

would do it except i'm saving for a c6 z06.. but i luv my CRX more than just about any car i have ever owned...