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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Default single jl audio 12w6v2 vs 18w3

i just want to know how a single w6v2 would compare to my 18w3 in terms of spl i know it will sound better

i mean... the 18 wont be THAT much louder will it? considering the technology in the w6v2, both would be on 800rms
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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my opinion the 18 will sound better and play louder.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my opinion the 18 will sound better and play louder. </TD></TR></TABLE>

why? i know you probably dont like jl but you must have some experience with them?
doesnt the w6v2 have some ungodly sound quality and stuff like that?
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Hmm.

I think I prefer the sound of the w6v2 series. It prob. wouldn't get as loud/low though.

I'm not too much a fan of JL subs (just from a value perspective), but they are all quite decent.

I'm not sure why EBP thinks the 18w3 would sound better; maybe he just likes larger drivers (I like low bass, so I understand that...I use 15's). Perhaps he just didn't care for the w6v2 series - in which case, subjective.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by archmage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm.

I think I prefer the sound of the w6v2 series. It prob. wouldn't get as loud/low though.

I'm not too much a fan of JL subs (just from a value perspective), but they are all quite decent.

I'm not sure why EBP thinks the 18w3 would sound better; maybe he just likes larger drivers (I like low bass, so I understand that...I use 15's). Perhaps he just didn't care for the w6v2 series - in which case, subjective.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that was primarily my reasoning for saying i think the 18 would sound better. the fact that you'll have much much less excursion playing the low frequencies which is better from an SQ point of view. also the fact that you can play much lower (ever heard an 18hz test tone? ). see in my ideal system theres dedicated midbass drivers so you dont have to worry about how high the sub is playing or about balancing the upper range of the sub with the lower range. it would most likely be crossed around the 40hz area at most.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that was primarily my reasoning for saying i think the 18 would sound better. the fact that you'll have much much less excursion playing the low frequencies which is better from an SQ point of view. also the fact that you can play much lower (ever heard an 18hz test tone? ). see in my ideal system theres dedicated midbass drivers so you dont have to worry about how high the sub is playing or about balancing the upper range of the sub with the lower range. it would most likely be crossed around the 40hz area at most.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree greatly on the fact that playing deeper bass and having a dedicated midbass would be the best route, but I will say this about the w6v2 speakers. I'm amazed at how full and deep these speakers can play. A 10w6v2 in a correctly built ported box with a JL 250/1 will really fool you into thinking there is a 15 in the trunk.

The 18 is gonna sound better for deep bass, but the 10w6v2 is gonna most likely be a more practical situation.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goatsterrman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I agree greatly on the fact that playing deeper bass and having a dedicated midbass would be the best route, but I will say this about the w6v2 speakers. I'm amazed at how full and deep these speakers can play. A 10w6v2 in a correctly built ported box with a JL 250/1 will really fool you into thinking there is a 15 in the trunk.

The 18 is gonna sound better for deep bass, but the 10w6v2 is gonna most likely be a more practical situation. </TD></TR></TABLE>

also keep in mind he already has the 18 and i'm deniately not saying the W6 is a bad speaker.

instead of changing subs, get a pair of 8" midbass drivers for the front and cross your sub fairly low. at least that way you can turn the 18 off when your tummy hurts and still have a full sound
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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On this one.....my .2 cents would depend on the box and whats the ohm capacity and amps powering these subs? Im pretty sure the 12w6v2 will put some comp. agaist that 18w3......for **** i had a 12w3 powered by a 200 watt RF class d amp (power edition old school) in some special ported box and it thumped as hard as 4 12 inch sony xplod with a 1200 watt audiobahn.....in a tahoe that was......so i would say it has alot to do with the box and amp power and ohm stability.....which im pretty sure they both can handle 2 ohm...but i think maybe that w6v2 can be 1 ohm......well too lazy to research.....but to end my .2 cents........i would say lots to do on the setup of the amps and type of box used on the subs.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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i agree alot with eliben, but i think i would go with the W6, the sob can get loud and stupid, its going to be more accurate, quicker, and personaly in my opinion a much more clear crisp tight hit, but im a big fan of it. but i saw screw it and go W7 i wish i haad enough money to put one in my hatch.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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imo an 18 hits hard and thats pretty much it they get sloppy when you turn the vol up
id go with a w6
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95civickid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">imo an 18 hits hard and thats pretty much it they get sloppy when you turn the vol up
id go with a w6</TD></TR></TABLE>

in my opinion you know as much about audio as the box the 18 comes in
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95civickid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">imo an 18 hits hard and thats pretty much it they get sloppy when you turn the vol up
id go with a w6</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, another 18s sound sloppy post hahaha ******* little kids
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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how much would a 12" w6 and 500/1 amp go for?? is it worth 500
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my opinion the 18 will sound better and play louder. </TD></TR></TABLE>
the 18" will be louder but it will definatly not sound better than a w6v2, 15" and 18" subs are meant for db drags and playin loud there not made for good sound quality
you either get a 10" or 12" for sq or 15" or 18" for mad db's
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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Human ears will not be able to hear that 18 Hz test tone. You surely can feel that bass note but you wont hear anything. Humans ears can only hear 20hz to 20Khz.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stylin-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the 18" will be louder but it will definatly not sound better than a w6v2, 15" and 18" subs are meant for db drags and playin loud there not made for good sound quality
you either get a 10" or 12" for sq or 15" or 18" for mad db's</TD></TR></TABLE>

bs total ******* bs!
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vigor5spd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Human ears will not be able to hear that 18 Hz test tone. You surely can feel that bass note but you wont hear anything. Humans ears can only hear 20hz to 20Khz.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats a pretty general range for human hearing. remember everyone is different and studys have been done that show hearing down to 15hz. other claim only as high as 18khz so to make a blaket statement like that isnt really true. it depends on the person. you also have to remember that the ears will have some kind of a rolloff too, its not like you can play and hear 25-20hz and then when you get to 19 you hear absolutely nothing.

look here
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stylin-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the 18" will be louder but it will definatly not sound better than a w6v2, 15" and 18" subs are meant for db drags and playin loud there not made for good sound quality
you either get a 10" or 12" for sq or 15" or 18" for mad db's</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn...that is some fine quality BS right there. if you would be so kind as to please enlighten us as to why 15s and 18s cant be used for SQ i would really appreciate it. thank you in advance.
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