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Been in couple of MR Edition. Ie, EVO Type-R 
car is very well done. 6spd gearing is way better than regular Evo8. car actually rides softer/better than Evo8 on the street. but can't comment on if handling is better than Evo8 (MR suppose to handle better) these cars aren't quite broken in yet. Can't wait to sample one on the track.
Mitsu did an awesome job. On the other hand, other than Evo8/MR their line up is pretty damn pathatic. No wonder they are having serious financial problems...
Modified by ghettoracer at 8:26 AM 11/19/2004
car is very well done. 6spd gearing is way better than regular Evo8. car actually rides softer/better than Evo8 on the street. but can't comment on if handling is better than Evo8 (MR suppose to handle better) these cars aren't quite broken in yet. Can't wait to sample one on the track.Mitsu did an awesome job. On the other hand, other than Evo8/MR their line up is pretty damn pathatic. No wonder they are having serious financial problems...
Modified by ghettoracer at 8:26 AM 11/19/2004
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Re: MR (Mike P.)
don't tease me. 
my student @ last event is a pilot. now if i can convince him to let me taker over the stick when i fly with him next week...
my student @ last event is a pilot. now if i can convince him to let me taker over the stick when i fly with him next week...
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Re: MR (MaddMatt)
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I would almost agree. Fantastic car, til a stock brake line decides it wants to seperate. Your opinion changes quite drastically after that.
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I would almost agree. Fantastic car, til a stock brake line decides it wants to seperate. Your opinion changes quite drastically after that.
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Re: MR (Warren)
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I would almost agree. Fantastic car, til a stock brake line decides it wants to seperate. Your opinion changes quite drastically after that.
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hi warren.
you can't really blame the braking system. this is quite common with heavier, very fast cars running stock brake lines, no ducting, and "full race" brake pads.
my previous car, a 96 mustang cobra, had this exact thing happen. after leaving summit point racetrack! at least it had the decency to wait until the track day was over....
about a month later, i got a letter stating "you may experience brake line failure when driving at sustained high speeds on a track while using racing brake pads". i think this came to me by way of an SVO motorsports membership, or something.
later, i found out that many many mustangs and camaros and some vettes which were using the PBR big brake system (what the cobra came with factory) and running stock rubber lines and using racing pads were almost all experiencing brakeline failure.
this didn't occur with stock pads; only with race pads.
what was going on was that the calipers were of high enough quality that they could withstand the tremendous heat generated by full race pads. there was no fade, or hint that anything was wrong. eventually, the rubber line melts and comes apart where it is crimped to the banjo fitting.
the fix was to either buy aftermarket braided lines, or you could by uprated special svo lines that had a 4" long metal tube welded to the banjo fitting. then the rubber line was crimped on.
or you could simply use a street pad; they fade before the tremendous heat is developed; you feel the fade, and back off; no brakeline failure.
when i took my EVO on the track earlier this year (PCA event i was instructing at) i purposefully didn't buy racepads. i also did buy the air directing scoops from mitsu that fit to the undertray and guide air to the brakes.
i had little to no fade. i had no brake problems whatsoever. in 2 days of use, i used up about 30% of the stock pads.
oh, and i was less than 1 second slower in a stock evo on stock tires and brakes driven very conservatively (its my only car and i owe alot of money on it!) then when i drive my real raceprepped car on track.....
car is super duper capable, and with nothing other than tires and brakes i think it would destroy my H1 car at most tracks.....
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to mitsu for building something like this that i can enjoy everyday on the long drive to and from work (i average 80 to 100 miles per day)!
I would almost agree. Fantastic car, til a stock brake line decides it wants to seperate. Your opinion changes quite drastically after that.
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hi warren.
you can't really blame the braking system. this is quite common with heavier, very fast cars running stock brake lines, no ducting, and "full race" brake pads.
my previous car, a 96 mustang cobra, had this exact thing happen. after leaving summit point racetrack! at least it had the decency to wait until the track day was over....
about a month later, i got a letter stating "you may experience brake line failure when driving at sustained high speeds on a track while using racing brake pads". i think this came to me by way of an SVO motorsports membership, or something.
later, i found out that many many mustangs and camaros and some vettes which were using the PBR big brake system (what the cobra came with factory) and running stock rubber lines and using racing pads were almost all experiencing brakeline failure.
this didn't occur with stock pads; only with race pads.
what was going on was that the calipers were of high enough quality that they could withstand the tremendous heat generated by full race pads. there was no fade, or hint that anything was wrong. eventually, the rubber line melts and comes apart where it is crimped to the banjo fitting.
the fix was to either buy aftermarket braided lines, or you could by uprated special svo lines that had a 4" long metal tube welded to the banjo fitting. then the rubber line was crimped on.
or you could simply use a street pad; they fade before the tremendous heat is developed; you feel the fade, and back off; no brakeline failure.
when i took my EVO on the track earlier this year (PCA event i was instructing at) i purposefully didn't buy racepads. i also did buy the air directing scoops from mitsu that fit to the undertray and guide air to the brakes.
i had little to no fade. i had no brake problems whatsoever. in 2 days of use, i used up about 30% of the stock pads.
oh, and i was less than 1 second slower in a stock evo on stock tires and brakes driven very conservatively (its my only car and i owe alot of money on it!) then when i drive my real raceprepped car on track.....
car is super duper capable, and with nothing other than tires and brakes i think it would destroy my H1 car at most tracks.....
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to mitsu for building something like this that i can enjoy everyday on the long drive to and from work (i average 80 to 100 miles per day)!Trending Topics
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Re: MR (MaddMatt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MaddMatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was astonished at the competence the 04 EVO showed on track. It literally could do no wrong. If the new model is better, well, then....goddamn!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
put it in the hands of a inexperanced driver and it can screw up very easily.
this past weekend the goup 3 leader said "Now all you WRX/STI/EVO drivers out there don't listen to the hype, these cars can get you into trouble just like anything else out there."
all of the infractions that were major, were commited in and EVO or STI.
That being said in the write hands id also asume they do great. I ddefently love to driver one
put it in the hands of a inexperanced driver and it can screw up very easily.
this past weekend the goup 3 leader said "Now all you WRX/STI/EVO drivers out there don't listen to the hype, these cars can get you into trouble just like anything else out there."
all of the infractions that were major, were commited in and EVO or STI.
That being said in the write hands id also asume they do great. I ddefently love to driver one
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counter point. an inexperienced driver when properly taught, can easily look drive like a adv. driver shortly in Evo8. this car just makes it so easy, and makes any decent driver looks GOOD.
speaking of awd cars, the older Audi S4 V6 Turbos's handles like crap (major understeer), and easily faded the brakes. i drove 04 AUdi S4 they're like 4.2 v8 now. the can was a TOTAL pleasant surprise. the engine is wonderful and torque and pulls to 7k. handling is greatly improved over older S4. brakes aren't killer but did not have any fade issues. i swear the car is like a slightly bigger version of Evo8. It is that good. I flogged the car for 2 hard sessions (with student's permission of course) and it is a nice car. i wouldn't buy it but just from performance point of view it is an excellent car.
speaking of awd cars, the older Audi S4 V6 Turbos's handles like crap (major understeer), and easily faded the brakes. i drove 04 AUdi S4 they're like 4.2 v8 now. the can was a TOTAL pleasant surprise. the engine is wonderful and torque and pulls to 7k. handling is greatly improved over older S4. brakes aren't killer but did not have any fade issues. i swear the car is like a slightly bigger version of Evo8. It is that good. I flogged the car for 2 hard sessions (with student's permission of course) and it is a nice car. i wouldn't buy it but just from performance point of view it is an excellent car.
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I have ~15k miles on my 2003 Evo VIII. I bought it new in March 2003. I have almost zero complaints. Wish it had cruise, but tough for me.
Mine ran Qtr in 13.4@102mph totally stock, ran beaverun at 1:08.2 (time trial) totally stock (stock tires, brakes, everything..).
for less than $1k you can go to about 300wheel hp. (that is next).
I don't think it would be worth me upgrading to an MR edition.
I have not had any problems with my car other than an intake hose popping off...
[bragging] - I just put coilovers and 18" volks on mine. [/bragging]
Mine ran Qtr in 13.4@102mph totally stock, ran beaverun at 1:08.2 (time trial) totally stock (stock tires, brakes, everything..).
for less than $1k you can go to about 300wheel hp. (that is next).
I don't think it would be worth me upgrading to an MR edition.
I have not had any problems with my car other than an intake hose popping off...
[bragging] - I just put coilovers and 18" volks on mine.
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Re: MR (ghettoracer)
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I flogged the car for 2 hard sessions (with student's permission of course) and it is a nice car. i wouldn't buy it but just from performance point of view it is an excellent car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You never learn. Were you gonna give him your civic when you crashed it?
How the hell do you get people to let you drive their cars? I can't believe there are that many stupid people out there.
Who doesn't know the Franky story?
I flogged the car for 2 hard sessions (with student's permission of course) and it is a nice car. i wouldn't buy it but just from performance point of view it is an excellent car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You never learn. Were you gonna give him your civic when you crashed it?
How the hell do you get people to let you drive their cars? I can't believe there are that many stupid people out there.
Who doesn't know the Franky story?
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[bragging] - I just put coilovers and 18" volks on mine. [/bragging]
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wow! nice looking EVO, scot! makes my dirty red everyday driver look like sh#$
looks really nice with those wheels and lowered slightly, too
oh, and i really miss the cruise control, too; i can't believe they didn't outfit our cars with cruise.....
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wow! nice looking EVO, scot! makes my dirty red everyday driver look like sh#$
looks really nice with those wheels and lowered slightly, too
oh, and i really miss the cruise control, too; i can't believe they didn't outfit our cars with cruise.....
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You never learn. Were you gonna give him your civic when you crashed it?
How the hell do you get people to let you drive their cars? I can't believe there are that many stupid people out there.
Who doesn't know the Franky story?
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what's your problem rylan?! if i'm not mistaken you've driven plenty of other ppl's cars too. many ppl that expressed opinions about me in the past certainly have drove other ppl's cars. anyway, when ppl let me drive their cars it's between the owner and i. i dunno why ppl always so nosey about butting into my biz.
what story are you talking about? that i'm some poor boy can't afford to buy a ferrari? funny ppl made tons of stories about me it seems. facts: instructed at 108 track days. driven over 200+ students cars. never hurt any students car. my secret is simple, i take care of my students and my teaching methods builds strong trust with my students. in fact a lot of time the students ask me to drive their cars.
You never learn. Were you gonna give him your civic when you crashed it?
How the hell do you get people to let you drive their cars? I can't believe there are that many stupid people out there.
Who doesn't know the Franky story?
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what's your problem rylan?! if i'm not mistaken you've driven plenty of other ppl's cars too. many ppl that expressed opinions about me in the past certainly have drove other ppl's cars. anyway, when ppl let me drive their cars it's between the owner and i. i dunno why ppl always so nosey about butting into my biz.
what story are you talking about? that i'm some poor boy can't afford to buy a ferrari? funny ppl made tons of stories about me it seems. facts: instructed at 108 track days. driven over 200+ students cars. never hurt any students car. my secret is simple, i take care of my students and my teaching methods builds strong trust with my students. in fact a lot of time the students ask me to drive their cars.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">facts: instructed at 108 track days. driven over 200+ students cars. never hurt any students car. my secret is simple, i take care of my students and my teaching methods builds strong trust with my students</TD></TR></TABLE>
Fact: You're still not racing in a professional series or (afaik) wheel-to-wheel racing series.
I don't mind the articles, very interesting as I enjoy reading about cars out there.. It's just the ego that i could go without.
I heard some of the EVO guys "hooking" their wheels on the berms to get them to rotate and hug the turn better... Is there some problem with them rotating?
Fact: You're still not racing in a professional series or (afaik) wheel-to-wheel racing series.
I don't mind the articles, very interesting as I enjoy reading about cars out there.. It's just the ego that i could go without.
I heard some of the EVO guys "hooking" their wheels on the berms to get them to rotate and hug the turn better... Is there some problem with them rotating?
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ok, and where does my ego come in?! am i out here saying i'm the best blah blah? i merely state the instruction days facts to ask what "frank story" is rylan refering to? he made it sound like i damage ppl's cars.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I heard some of the EVO guys "hooking" their wheels on the berms to get them to rotate and hug the turn better... Is there some problem with them rotating? </TD></TR></TABLE>
EVO8 rotates well for an AWD car. but it is still not an ideal track setup (meaning you should be on the gas, or on the brakes all the times). yep it does not have enough rotation. using berms correctly can help with rotation.
Modified by ghettoracer at 9:41 PM 11/19/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I heard some of the EVO guys "hooking" their wheels on the berms to get them to rotate and hug the turn better... Is there some problem with them rotating? </TD></TR></TABLE>
EVO8 rotates well for an AWD car. but it is still not an ideal track setup (meaning you should be on the gas, or on the brakes all the times). yep it does not have enough rotation. using berms correctly can help with rotation.
Modified by ghettoracer at 9:41 PM 11/19/2004
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Fact: You're still not racing in a professional series or (afaik) wheel-to-wheel racing series.
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did he say he was?
Fact: You're still not racing in a professional series or (afaik) wheel-to-wheel racing series.
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did he say he was?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't tease me. my student @ last event is a pilot. now if i can convince him to let me taker over the stick when i fly with him next week... </TD></TR></TABLE>
just don't bust any tarmac/dirt/tarmac excursions to short cut any turns and you'll be fine
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johhnytran »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> it's an amazing machine the MR, somebody had to put the wrench time in to k33p up wit da mad aZZz 3rd g3^r Vt^K Jondas </TD></TR></TABLE>
my student @ last event is a pilot. now if i can convince him to let me taker over the stick when i fly with him next week... </TD></TR></TABLE>just don't bust any tarmac/dirt/tarmac excursions to short cut any turns and you'll be fine
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johhnytran »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> it's an amazing machine the MR, somebody had to put the wrench time in to k33p up wit da mad aZZz 3rd g3^r Vt^K Jondas </TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i merely state the instruction days facts to ask what "frank story" is rylan refering to? he made it sound like i damage ppl's cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounded like a badge of honour or rite of passage...rather than an explaination. my fault for mistaking it as so.
I'm kinda curious if Subaru is going to bring out a light-weight STi. The thing about Mitsu screaming foul play when you race it makes me cringe.
Sounded like a badge of honour or rite of passage...rather than an explaination. my fault for mistaking it as so.
I'm kinda curious if Subaru is going to bring out a light-weight STi. The thing about Mitsu screaming foul play when you race it makes me cringe.
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I haven't driven the STi's. so i can't comment on how it is. on paper it is a really trick car. but in all the mags the drivers rave about even just regular Evo8 vs. STi. it really doens't matter though, i'm sure with some tuning STi can perform tremendously. i don't usually value the mag tests 100%. it's just a good/great starting point. we all modify our cars anyways. so both subie and evo8 are great platforms. stock tho, Evo8 wins hands down with out of doubt. i've recommend Evo8 ever since I droved it (1st time was actually at ITR Expo3). it's the best bang for the car below $35k.
look wise, i always thought subies looked better than Evo8 (and Evo7 looks a lot better than 8 IMO). but Evo8 is just so bad *** and does everything so well that, well it starts to look better and better. kinda like a average looking girl but with kick *** personality.
look wise, i always thought subies looked better than Evo8 (and Evo7 looks a lot better than 8 IMO). but Evo8 is just so bad *** and does everything so well that, well it starts to look better and better. kinda like a average looking girl but with kick *** personality.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look wise, i always thought subies looked better than Evo8 (and Evo7 looks a lot better than 8 IMO). but Evo8 is just so bad *** and does everything so well that, well it starts to look better and better. kinda like a average looking girl but with kick *** personality.
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I completely agree. That same thing has been happening to me ever since I drove one, then I bought on this week. haha
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I completely agree. That same thing has been happening to me ever since I drove one, then I bought on this week. haha
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, and where does my ego come in?! am i out here saying i'm the best blah blah? i merely state the instruction days facts to ask what "frank story" is rylan refering to? he made it sound like i damage ppl's cars.
EVO8 rotates well for an AWD car. but it is still not an ideal track setup (meaning you should be on the gas, or on the brakes all the times). yep it does not have enough rotation. using berms correctly can help with rotation.
Modified by ghettoracer at 9:41 PM 11/19/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
MR is a great car, Evo VIII if set up properly will rotate nice while you are on the gas. doing a bigger adjustable rear sway bar, trailarm bushings and a properly set up alignment will make wonders on the car.
What helps the most on the MR handleing then the evo viii is the fact that it has a front lsd while the evo has an open differential. It allows you to WOT as you are exiting the turn with no problems. Adding the quaife front LSD (alot stronger then what mitsu offers) will solve that problem.
EVO8 rotates well for an AWD car. but it is still not an ideal track setup (meaning you should be on the gas, or on the brakes all the times). yep it does not have enough rotation. using berms correctly can help with rotation.
Modified by ghettoracer at 9:41 PM 11/19/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
MR is a great car, Evo VIII if set up properly will rotate nice while you are on the gas. doing a bigger adjustable rear sway bar, trailarm bushings and a properly set up alignment will make wonders on the car.
What helps the most on the MR handleing then the evo viii is the fact that it has a front lsd while the evo has an open differential. It allows you to WOT as you are exiting the turn with no problems. Adding the quaife front LSD (alot stronger then what mitsu offers) will solve that problem.
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yet another plus for MR... we just took it round trip from SF to LA and back. car is nice and quiet... and high speed stability of the car is uber impressive.
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Re: MR (Driven)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Driven »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm kinda curious if Subaru is going to bring out a light-weight STi. The thing about Mitsu screaming foul play when you race it makes me cringe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Heh, I chuckled when I first read that, remembering reading about the sti that was coming to america. Thinner rear glass, no sound system, lighter this lighter that. Kinda hard to believe they can make a "light version." I remember reading in automobile magazine that subaru is coming out with an sti type r in japan, it will have lighter wheels, aluminum roof, larger wing and other goodies IIRC. I'll see if I can find anything about it.
I'm kinda curious if Subaru is going to bring out a light-weight STi. The thing about Mitsu screaming foul play when you race it makes me cringe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Heh, I chuckled when I first read that, remembering reading about the sti that was coming to america. Thinner rear glass, no sound system, lighter this lighter that. Kinda hard to believe they can make a "light version." I remember reading in automobile magazine that subaru is coming out with an sti type r in japan, it will have lighter wheels, aluminum roof, larger wing and other goodies IIRC. I'll see if I can find anything about it.
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Having driven all four of the models we are talking about, I much say each has it's own pros and cons.
The MR was a GREAT car to drive on track. Very fun, handled very well, and as Gok already stated, you could just stand on the throttle when exiting the corner. Compared with the regular evo8, the car felt a bit more mild, but the front LSD made the car a tad bit faster obviously! The car seemed to rotate just like the evo, but seemed a bit more stable.
The MR or 8 against the STI is not much comparison on track stock for stock. The EVO is just a much funner car to drive.
Reason being, the STI was built for the street with performance in mind. The EVO was built for the track, with "driving on the street" as an after thought. At least thats what each car tells me. The STI feels much more livable on the street to and from work everyday with softer suspension and a bit more understeer. But with the right tuning, both these cars would be killer!
But for stock, and $, I still say the stock EVO is the best bang for buck of the 4!
Now, if you own a stock WRX, put a set of 17" wheels on it with some good tires and it will make a world of difference!
The MR was a GREAT car to drive on track. Very fun, handled very well, and as Gok already stated, you could just stand on the throttle when exiting the corner. Compared with the regular evo8, the car felt a bit more mild, but the front LSD made the car a tad bit faster obviously! The car seemed to rotate just like the evo, but seemed a bit more stable.
The MR or 8 against the STI is not much comparison on track stock for stock. The EVO is just a much funner car to drive.
Reason being, the STI was built for the street with performance in mind. The EVO was built for the track, with "driving on the street" as an after thought. At least thats what each car tells me. The STI feels much more livable on the street to and from work everyday with softer suspension and a bit more understeer. But with the right tuning, both these cars would be killer!
But for stock, and $, I still say the stock EVO is the best bang for buck of the 4!
Now, if you own a stock WRX, put a set of 17" wheels on it with some good tires and it will make a world of difference!
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what do you mean by mild there? power or handling?
what do you mean by mild there? power or handling?