I saw on http://www.inlinefour.com that I can buy Type S cams and the valve springs/etc for about $1000. It is advertised as a bolt on app. Throw in the cams/springs/etc and you will have improved midrange and top end you can FEEL. and they have the word FEEL in all caps.

Have any of you put in Type S cams. How big is the power? I thought the JDM Type S preludes only made about 20 hp more than a US market Prelude. For $1000 I would hope to get at least that much power.....

what's the deal wtih these cams.. worth the money.. or are there better aftermarket units out there??

another query...any of you have any experience wtih aftermarket cams and trying to pass the new CA smog test?? can it be done?

 

I wouldn't bother with them. Talk to http://www.webcaminc.com or http://www.crower.com

Type S is great if you have the entire setup, like more compression...

 

I had type s cams a while back, ended up selling them before i got it on the dyno....but the guy i sold them too put the cams in along with valve springs and retainers.....he dynoed 5 less whp than the baseline.

 

perfect example...

 

sigh...

 

What about JUN cams? I've 'heard' they're out. Anyone have info on this?

-Rod

 

i have type s cams, rods, and pistons that's been sittin in my garage for a while now. i've been wanting to sell them. you interested?

 

Type S cams alone will not give you the additional 30 horses that JDM S-engines have stock because it is a combination of many parts that gets you these numbers. JG luder said one which are higher piston rate 11:1, as well as different headers, Red Vavle cover, and other varying internals. If you can the parts for a reasonable price then I would recommend them. However if you want a complete engine rebuild why not just go all the way and get a Crower like setup for around the same price.

 

TypeS cams scored the rocker arms on the motors of at least 2 people I have heard of that have had them. But then there are plenty of others that have had the TypeS cams for years and claim to have had no issues...

The problem is that the valve seat angles on the TypeS head are 45 degrees vs 60 degrees on the regular H22a head. Endyn has reprofiled TypeS cams for at least one person so that they were more compatible with the US head geometry...

Or you can save you self alot of money and trouble and just get the Crower stage I or II cams that were designed for the US head.

Andrew

 

Aside from Larry being a liar on most stuff... exactly what he said.

 

No info on JUN cams at all?

-Rod

 

Over priced.

Good cams, but no one really wants to spend that much just for the name JUN. I'd stick with Crower, less $$$ and probably equal power.

 

Definately overpriced. I remember reading on importreview that Jeff dyno'd a set of JUN cams on a stock h22 (only a milled head) and made 187HP.

To tell you the truth...I have no clue if that is considered good or bad. I'm a newbie/just got started into the performance thing. I'm taking the advice of Jeff and swapping the almighty h22 into an EG. A lot of people tell me b series is better, more potential....but I don't believe that ****. H22 is highly overlooked by some.


[Modified by RK, 7:46 PM 12/28/2001]

 

The only reason why some might think the B series motor is better in a Civic application is because most times the motor is too heavy and too strong for such a small and light bodied car. Causing handling to be bad and poor performance.

 

only 80-100 lbs or so heavier. It's just a harder swap, and you really don't have the room to toy with stuff.

 

That's understandable....but the problem is that most people who say that....haven't driven one before or hasn't talked to someone who has one or didn't get the swap done *correctly*. Plus the engine is only 70-80lbs heavier than a b series. Yes, you'll get a lil more understeer but it's not to the point where some say you can't turn or make u-turns. Plus...I don't plan on autocrossing anyways.

I don't plan on modding the motor like crazy. First off...I don't have enough $$ to do that. Second, CA cops/smog and all the other bs....don't wanna deal with it. So a h22 swap (which is about the same cost as a gsr swap) would probably be a low 14/possibly high 13 car with a fairly stock motor. I'd probably have to spend at least $2000 to get a gsr to do that for me and may not be smog legal.

 

It will probably come out to be the same either way. Because you will still need extra for mounts, suspension, etc. in order for it to be totally worth it. Now dont get me wrong a h22a in a Civic is any car owners dream. Just make sure you talk to people that have done it before and get all the pros and cons before you decide either way..

And its not even so much the weight of the engine but the torque that you will have to be afraid of. hehe

 

Yea man, I've been researching like crazy lately. You're right...I'll pay a lil extra for mounts and labor...but the engine is $1000 less than a gsr motor. As far as suspension goes...even if I get a gsr motor...there is no way in hell I'm gonna roll with a stock vx/cx suspension. So either way...I'll be getting groundcontrols with konis...and if I ultimately end up getting the h22...I'll just have groundcontrol give me stiffer springs (though that'll be some research right there for which rate to go with). Yea, some say I have to get strut/sway bars...but I'm really only concerned with straightline speed. Hauling *** in corners is just not my thing.

Torque is good

 

Coo, keep us informed on how the project goes with whatever path you decide on. Either way you will definately be hauling major a$$.

 

i bet the red valve cover adds 10 hp

 

Actually it does..