All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:31 AM
  #1  
oem_dc2's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,683
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up




Modified by jdmkockface at 4:59 PM 12/17/2004
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:45 AM
  #2  
oem_dc2's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,683
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

someone!
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:49 AM
  #3  
BERT-O's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,802
Likes: 2
From: FL, USA
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

you need more comp. who build this? Jerry built on your siq???

Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:52 AM
  #4  
oem_dc2's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,683
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (BERT-O)

i wish. no jerry built did not, im taking it to him soon.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:53 AM
  #5  
oem_dc2's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,683
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

up for some help
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 02:58 PM
  #6  
Insane Beast's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,784
Likes: 0
From: Simi Valley Ventura County, CA
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

Check with Dr. Jerry himself
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:20 PM
  #7  
RCautoworks's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 17,227
Likes: 2
From: Illinois
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

Do a leakdown test
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:35 PM
  #8  
Combustion Contraption's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,170
Likes: 3
From: So Cal
Default

was the engine warm when you did this? fuel disabled? throttle open/closed? how many times did you let the engine turn over? Cyl. #4 looks to be a prob. Is the b20b stock bottom end?
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:37 PM
  #9  
lohatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 1
From: the backwoods, usa
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

maybe put a few drops of oil in it and do it over again a couple of times in a row. see if it comes up and stays consistent or drops every time you do it.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:03 PM
  #10  
sander's Avatar
2.7(p/t)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,357
Likes: 1
From: Maryland
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (lohatch)

if theres no smoke or oil consumption, check your valves make sure there all at correct lash spec. prob around .006 in .007 ex (when motor is COLD)

-s

Leakdown test would also tell you very quickly where the problem is
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:44 PM
  #11  
hayabusa160's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,136
Likes: 0
From: nj
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

cyl 4? the one next to the timing belt? if so my car is exactly the same 250-240 across and that one is at 220 no clue why
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:47 PM
  #12  
zad5's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 994
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

do a leak down test also. u can also try to put oil down that cylinder through the spark plug hole and check the compression if the number goes higher them you know that ur ring are gone on that cylinder. i believe thats rite.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:52 PM
  #13  
lohatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 1
From: the backwoods, usa
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (hayabusa160)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hayabusa160 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cyl 4? the one next to the timing belt? if so my car is exactly the same 250-240 across and that one is at 220 no clue why
</TD></TR></TABLE>
cylinder order is 4-3-2-1 from distributor to timing belt.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:53 PM
  #14  
therealpoorboy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
From: md
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (hayabusa160)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hayabusa160 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cyl 4? the one next to the timing belt? if so my car is exactly the same 250-240 across and that one is at 220 no clue why
</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, #1 is closest to the timing belt. #4 is next to the dizzy.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:56 PM
  #15  
hayabusa160's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,136
Likes: 0
From: nj
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (therealpoorboy)

i kno that dammit
my plug wires labled
was makin sure the way he did it
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:02 PM
  #16  
lohatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 1
From: the backwoods, usa
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (hayabusa160)

its cool, just for anybody that was confused on this matter when reading the CYLINDER ORDER IS 4-3-2-1 from distributor to timing belt. maybe some newbs will read it and learn something useful.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:54 PM
  #17  
oem_dc2's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,683
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (lohatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lohatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its cool, just for anybody that was confused on this matter when reading the CYLINDER ORDER IS 4-3-2-1 from distributor to timing belt. maybe some newbs will read it and learn something useful.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i did the test with car kinda warm, not too warm didnt want to blow the meter
thanx guys. i will do a leakdown test. shouldnt my compression be higher like atleast 190 or is it because my bottom end has such low compression?
B20B is completely stock time for a 12:1 sleeved bottom end and skunk stage 2 head
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:04 PM
  #18  
lohatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 1
From: the backwoods, usa
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

nah motors with around 9.0:1 and higher mileage are usually around the 150-170 range
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:05 PM
  #19  
Rob Dizzle's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 4,097
Likes: 1
From: Get Firefox, CA, USA
Default Re: Comp Test on Frankenstein Set up (jdmkockface)

well what is wrong with the setup?

compression numbers only tell us so much....
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:07 PM
  #20  
Combustion Contraption's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,170
Likes: 3
From: So Cal
Default

make sure the car is full warmed up, disable fuel, and open the throttle when you do it.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:17 PM
  #21  
oem_dc2's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,683
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Re: (LsVtec92Hatch)

what do you mean by open throttle as in no intake? and the car ran a 15.2 at 95 mph at fontana on race gas and gutted, which isnt right for a b20v. actually what i think happened was the on of the sparkplugs was a 7. which caused cylinder #4 to go. i just don't know what i need to do now rebuild wise, the car runs good at low rpms, but at higher like 5-7 it struggles.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:23 PM
  #22  
Combustion Contraption's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,170
Likes: 3
From: So Cal
Default Re: (jdmkockface)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmkockface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you mean by open throttle as in no intake? and the car ran a 15.2 at 95 mph at fontana on race gas and gutted, which isnt right for a b20v. actually what i think happened was the on of the sparkplugs was a 7. which caused cylinder #4 to go. i just don't know what i need to do now rebuild wise, the car runs good at low rpms, but at higher like 5-7 it struggles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i mean step on the gas pedal while cranking the car to make sure the butterfly valve is open so the cylinder is actually filling completely with air. If you ran the car on race gas with low compression, your probably werent burning all the fuel and the vehicle would probably have run faster on 91 octane. I dont understand your comment about the spark plug causing cyl. 4 to go. If the vehicle runs good at low RPM, and it should, being a 2 liter, but struggles up high it sounds like a fuel issue. You could be running a tad bit lean, which is fine for low RPM operation, most smaller displacement 4 cyl. engines like to run a little lean down low, and its just not getting enough fuel up high. This is all speculation though. You should list a very detailed description of your setup including what size injectors, any fuel mods, etc. etc. if you want me to help you some more.
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:41 PM
  #23  
oem_dc2's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,683
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Re: (LsVtec92Hatch)

ok.

specs

98 B20B
95 P72 Head
Mugen Chipped P72
OBD1

DC 4-2-1 Headers
Short Ram
2 1/4 piping straitpipe to ITR Exhaust
Change OIL every 2k
never take it past 7500 when running at track
NGK Sparkplugs
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
GSR TB

Stock GSR injectors
Stock Civic Si Fuel Pump
Stock GSR FPR

about 15k miles on this setup

i felt the race gas was pointless also
hmm Honda Fiend helped me do it, he cranked the car about 6 times, tapping on the gas of course. it was professionally done test
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:00 PM
  #24  
AllMTRWH0R3's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,985
Likes: 0
From: Deceptive, CA 805, Jerry Built NA.
Default Re: (jdmkockface)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmkockface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok.

specs

98 B20B
95 P72 Head
Mugen Chipped P72
OBD1

DC 4-2-1 Headers ( jerry will tell you to change this out when you go higher comp)
Short Ram
2 1/4 piping straitpipe to ITR Exhaust
Change OIL every 2k
never take it past 7500 when running at track take it higher you poo-c
NGK Sparkplugs
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
GSR TB

Stock GSR injectors
Stock Civic Si Fuel Pump
Stock GSR FPR

about 15k miles on this setup

i felt the race gas was pointless also &lt;----- BALLER
hmm Honda Fiend helped me do it, he cranked the car about 6 times, tapping on the gas of course. it was professionally done test</TD></TR></TABLE>


If it helps anything my friends turbo engine checks in at 160 psi on 9:1 comp and it seems fine. Just ask jerry he will help you out and tell him Ernies ( me ) not to work so damn much
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:10 PM
  #25  
oem_dc2's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,683
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Re: (allmtrwhore2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmtrwhore2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


If it helps anything my friends turbo engine checks in at 160 psi on 9:1 comp and it seems fine. Just ask jerry he will help you out and tell him Ernies ( me ) not to work so damn much </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey thanx will do
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
STN_Pat
Tech / Misc
5
Sep 25, 2012 09:11 AM
vteclife
Honda Prelude
8
Jun 7, 2008 02:21 PM
Ruben19
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
2
Oct 2, 2006 08:01 PM
Propulsion
Tech / Misc
5
Jun 5, 2002 11:48 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:41 PM.