EDIT: 11/25/04 just a quick, updated summary of the problem:

my car wont start. i have no spark, no fuel. I replaced the fuel pump and took apart the main relay (it looked fine). Are there any fuses for the fuel pump? i looked all over the diagrams but couldnt see one for the fuel pump. I really need my car bc ive been without it for a week now and was hoping that the fuel pump would fix it, but no luck. I have a jdm b18c in an eg but its been running fine for months so it shouldnt be any problems with the grounds.

the plugs, plug wires, dist. cap & rotor are all pretty new..... please help!


Just so you know, i already searched through probably about 100threads and im still not satisfied with what ive found so i am seeking everyones advice/thoughts/any feedback.


Modified by Chris M at 12:12 AM 11/25/2004


Modified by Chris M at 12:12 AM 11/25/2004

 

it could be one of the few things you mentioned above. turn your key into the 'on' position and you will hear a faint noise coming from the rear of the car (kind of like a humming sound). another way to check is to unbolt fuel line from the fuel rail and turn the key to see if fuel shoots out. also check to see if there's spark, and that could be your problem.

 

check the main relay.

 

wow well cingular sucks. when i got my cell phone 3months ago i asked for road side assistance so today when i called they said i didnt have it. i ended up having to pay $95 to get my car towed 12miles back to my damn house!

anyways after playing with my car a bit and checkin the fuel line im pretty sure its the fuel pump bc the line was dry (nothing was comin out and im pretty sure it was the right line). i also couldnt hear a humming noise from the fuel pump area so I think im going to buy the walbro 190 fuel pump with install kit. I think it comes with a new wires and filter as well. I found it on ebay for $90 shipped brand new if anyone is interested.

Anyways the fun part that im not 100% on is the install. I found a thread that has a great link with directions and pictures and it looks fairly simple but i just have one question. When I take the old fuel line and bad pump to put the new line and new pump in, is fuel going to get everywhere and is there a way to prevent that? I just dont like the thought of having the whole inside of my car smellin like gas.

Well, i'm going to stop rambling bc my only two posts on this thread are long as hell and i dont want to put you to sleep.


Modified by Chris M at 5:14 AM 11/17/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2lua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check the main relay.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha i feel kind of dumb but where is that located on a 94 civic?

 

ttt

 

uhhh i can tell you where it is on a teg. its in the same place though. its a brown box with a wireing harness plug into it fromthe bottom. its is just south (closer to the driver) of the fues box (inside the car). oh and the fuel pump install is a breeze. not messy and when you take the old one out just have a paper towel for gas evaporates so its won't be dripping.

 

cool thanks

 

most likely it is your main relay like stated above. if thats not it check all your grounds and fuses

 

ok i just replaced the fuel pump and no success...my car still wont start.... can anyone give me a part number for the main relay, a picture and tell me what fuses i can check? i can hear my car trying to turn over but its not getting any fuel. please help!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by incredteg3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhhh i can tell you where it is on a teg. its in the same place though. its a brown box with a wireing harness plug into it fromthe bottom. its is just south (closer to the driver) of the fues box (inside the car). oh and the fuel pump install is a breeze. not messy and when you take the old one out just have a paper towel for gas evaporates so its won't be dripping. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i found a black box just right by the fuse box. it was kind of above the little pannel that u pull down to get to the fuses and has the diagram drawn on it. it has a little pigtail harness thing on it....is that it? it has a bunch of wire colors written on it.

 

nm search ownz me! i found the relay and took it off but now i cant figure out how to take it apart to make sure everything inside is fine and that nothing needs to be soldered. i am flat broke right now bc i just bought i lap top so i need to try and fix this myself and i just need to know how to take the relay apart. i read something about prying it open with a flathead but im kinda nervous about doin that bc i dont want to break it and i dont really see a good place to start prying at.

bump!

 

ok. forget the part where i said i have spark, bc when my dad was looking over it with me today and he pulled out one of the plugs when i was trying to start the car, he said there was no spark.....so my car has no spark and no fuel........ when i took apart the main relay, everything looked fine...nothing looked burnt or anything and didnt seem like it needed to be re-soldered....im really confused

 

plz help ppl i need my car back very badly! someone must know something!

 

would an automatic, usdm ls ecu work with my setup? just to test to see if its my ecu thats bad....

 

ok i guess i should just count on not being able to drive my car for a while

 

thanksgiving bump?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would an automatic, usdm ls ecu work with my setup? just to test to see if its my ecu thats bad....</TD></TR></TABLE> ????????

also can someone answer my previous question about what fuses to check? i checked the diagram to all of my fuses and could not find anything for the fuel pump.

 

Try cheaking the fuses under the hood...The ECU Fuse could be burnt...I believe it the fuse in the very top left hand corner of the fuse box....Then Try and swap ECUs if that doesnt work...Should be one of those things....

 

wow, that's crazy, i had the same problem a few months ago, when you turn your car onto the accessory position you should hear the fuel pump whine (meaning it's feeding fuel to the injectors, you should hear it inside the car as well as outside) if you hear that noise then you have obviously got fuel. My bet on this is if you have no spark at all, it is your DISTRIBUTOR COIL, because that is what provides the spark my friend, let me know what's up with it!!!!

 

the fuel pump is definately not coming on so does that mean it could still be the coil?

 

do you have any power to the car, ie radio, clock, stuff like that?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R. Killa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have any power to the car, ie radio, clock, stuff like that?</TD></TR></TABLE> check this again... Do you have any kill switches? you can check it at the fuel pump plug or kill switch?with some one help turn the key on not start.
you said that you had look at main relay, but did you resolder all the joints?

 

I had the same prb all I did was checked my grounds, there is one under the throtle body next to the starter that is the one that came loose on me. I wasnt getting fuel no spark but the car would sond like it wanted to turn over. Check your grounds. That is all I can say. You will also know if the fuel pump is working by turning the car to the acc position, your check engine light will come on breifly and you will hear the fuel pump, that is the fuel pump priming the motor the check engine light will then shut off. If your check engine light doesnt come on then CHEK YOUR GROUNDS!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2lua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> check this again... Do you have any kill switches? you can check it at the fuel pump plug or kill switch?with some one help turn the key on not start.
you said that you had look at main relay, but did you resolder all the joints?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have power to my radio, lights and all of that.... i have no kill switches or any kind of securitydevice. i checked all of my ground but no i did not resolder any of the points on the main relay but they all looked fine.