I am in need of a wideband unit and I dont have a clue which unit I want to go with, so hopefully someone can give me some input and point me in the right direction! T have researched these all this past weekend and have no clue which company to go with! I have also found a few DIY kits and have considered getting one however the nicest one(techedge) is in australia and you have to import the parts rather than getting them here in the US or build your own from Radio shack part however they dont give you very many options as far as for use of a display( I dont want to have to convert millivolt readings to an Air/ Fuel Ratio by use of a chart! I also looked and the Innovative kit which I like however I do not want to drill for another O2 sensor! During my search I read that you can use just the wideband O2 and the wideband unit can send a narrowband signal to satisfy the ECU! Most of this kits are expensive, so I want to make the right decision so I dont get something I do not want! HELP!

 

We recommend the AEM UEGO

 

It seems like a nice unit, however very expensive!

 

do you want something that has built in datalogging?

if not, the plx m250 will suffice.

plxdevices.com

it uses the bosch LSU-4 sensor which makes it cheaper. 300 bux.


best way, get a laptop and hook that up to the ECU. then hook up the plx m250. Download free software(uberdate, crome) and datalog. Then tune to your heart's desire. and burn a new chip with a willem programmer (50 bux).

I can't justify spending 200 more bux just so that the wbo2 can datalog when you can do that for free. (with a laptop)

 

i would also like to know. something not to expensive, im poor remember.

 

plx is as cheap as its gonna get

 

I run the innovative. It's big but has tons of features including a narrowband output to drive the factory ecu.

 

PLX is a good bang for the buck. It's what I've been running for a year now and works great, it too can put out a narrowband signal for your ECU.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DefiantGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you want something that has built in datalogging?

if not, the plx m250 will suffice.

plxdevices.com

it uses the bosch LSU-4 sensor which makes it cheaper. 300 bux.


best way, get a laptop and hook that up to the ECU. then hook up the plx m250. Download free software(uberdate, crome) and datalog. Then tune to your heart's desire. and burn a new chip with a willem programmer (50 bux).

I can't justify spending 200 more bux just so that the wbo2 can datalog when you can do that for free. (with a laptop)</TD></TR></TABLE>




I have an SAFC 2 for some tunning, however I plan on buying the equipment to burn EPROMS in the near future!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90 integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would also like to know. something not to expensive, im poor remember.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Im poor too, so I must be wise when choosing the system I want!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tbone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I run the innovative. It's big but has tons of features including a narrowband output to drive the factory ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I like the Innovative kit and it is under $300 now($289)! The only downfall is it is bulky, however Im glad to hear it has a narrowband output though(Is that on the $300 model).

 

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm


What about this? Looks awesome!

Edit:
**My bad:

$279 w/o display

$399 w/ display

 

Can you link me to the innovative?

Is that the same as the innovate? http://www.innovatemotorsports...1.php

it's 349!

 

I have had my Innovate since the beginning of the summer and it kicks so much ***! It beats the **** out of my DIY-WB02 I had. I got the input adaptor and the inductive RPM clamp with it. It comes with beautiful software and is an absolute pleasure to use.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nfn15037 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had my Innovate since the beginning of the summer and it kicks so much ***! It beats the **** out of my DIY-WB02 I had. I got the input adaptor and the inductive RPM clamp with it. It comes with beautiful software and is an absolute pleasure to use.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much more was the Inductive RPM Clamp?


It looks nice but its just so bulky, where would I put it! I want to ran this is the car at all times, so I can view!


I guess DIY Wideband is out of the question then?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DefiantGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you link me to the innovative?

Is that the same as the innovate? http://www.innovatemotorsports...1.php

it's 349!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah! On the website its $349, but there are a few dealers that sell them for $289 + shipping!

 

The PLX is the unit that has been getting great reviews on all of the forums that I vist, it seems to be a very widely used piece. That's what I intend to buy in the very near future.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much more was the Inductive RPM Clamp?


It looks nice but its just so bulky, where would I put it! I want to ran this is the car at all times, so I can view!


I guess DIY Wideband is out of the question then?

yeah! On the website its $349, but there are a few dealers that sell them for $289 + shipping!</TD></TR></TABLE>

The inductive clamp was $30 I think? If you wanted to run it all the tim ein the car, why not just drive one of those AF gauges off the wideband unit? Use the unit display and datalogs for tuning then tuck it under the dash and have the narrowband output driving the AF gauge. *shrug* it doesn't seem that huge to me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nfn15037 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The inductive clamp was $30 I think? If you wanted to run it all the tim ein the car, why not just drive one of those AF gauges off the wideband unit? Use the unit display and datalogs for tuning then tuck it under the dash and have the narrowband output driving the AF gauge. *shrug* it doesn't seem that huge to me </TD></TR></TABLE>


You are right! I seen one yesterday and they seem real nice(and not that big)! And I found out that you do not want to run a wideband O2 sensor at all times! So I think I am going to get the innovate motorsports LM-1 kit and start from there! You can not beat it for the price!

Do you have to run the rpm clamp to get it to playback a/f ratio throughout the rpm band?

Any other comments on this unit or any other!

 

no way in hell i would get anything than what i have been using for the past 6 months-zeitronix. uif you hurry the hell up theres a group buy for them right now- search. it needs a laptop to datalog,but becasue of that itll datalog days at a time with no problem at all. itll also plaot, rpm,tps,boost,egt,and one user specified parameter. u cannot beat that for the price, and it is extremly responsive unit, and the readins are quick and accurate. it has a narrowband out so u can remove your primary and wire the wideband as that and leave it in permenant. the best paert is thaqt the widebands are 40 bux now,which is cheaper than OEM honda o2!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnzm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no way in hell i would get anything than what i have been using for the past 6 months-zeitronix. uif you hurry the hell up theres a group buy for them right now- search. it needs a laptop to datalog,but becasue of that itll datalog days at a time with no problem at all. itll also plaot, rpm,tps,boost,egt,and one user specified parameter. u cannot beat that for the price, and it is extremly responsive unit, and the readins are quick and accurate. it has a narrowband out so u can remove your primary and wire the wideband as that and leave it in permenant. the best paert is thaqt the widebands are 40 bux now,which is cheaper than OEM honda o2!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah the VW O2 sensor is $40 from the dealer! I was considering the Zeitronix, but I do not need boost and EGT! Does it display a/f ratio in comparison with rpms on the PC program?

 

Well you can tap into the blue wire on the dizzy and run that to the input adaptor instead of running the inductive clamp. I got the clamp because I use it on a lot of different cars, so I don't want to splice. The Innovate datalogs 44 minutes worth of 5 sensors internally. Sorry, but I don't wanna lug my laptop around in the car to datalog. With fewer inputs, it datalogs for much longer. The software is unmatched by any wideband manufacturer I have dealt with and the support forum is top notch. FWIW, the Innovate is one of the only WB02s that has a built in calibration function.

 

i picked up the Techedge DIY 2aO kit. It was pretty cheap for me plus i payed $35 for a VW wideband O2 sensor.

My brother was able to solder the kit no problem so thats why i got it.

i have the wideband o2 sensor in permently. works great for me.

easy to pull out too since we're gonna try to use it for my friends setup with uberdata.....is that possible??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nfn15037 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well you can tap into the blue wire on the dizzy and run that to the input adaptor instead of running the inductive clamp. I got the clamp because I use it on a lot of different cars, so I don't want to splice. The Innovate datalogs 44 minutes worth of 5 sensors internally. Sorry, but I don't wanna lug my laptop around in the car to datalog. With fewer inputs, it datalogs for much longer. The software is unmatched by any wideband manufacturer I have dealt with and the support forum is top notch. FWIW, the Innovate is one of the only WB02s that has a built in calibration function. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I like the fact that it has a calibration function, more accurate measurements for alternate conditions! I work in a calibration lab as it is so I know all about accurracy!

BTW, tahnks for the tip, that'll save me $120! or do you still have to have the aux cable?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JerseySiPOS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i picked up the Techedge DIY 2aO kit. It was pretty cheap for me plus i payed $35 for a VW wideband O2 sensor.

My brother was able to solder the kit no problem so thats why i got it.

i have the wideband o2 sensor in permently. works great for me.

easy to pull out too since we're gonna try to use it for my friends setup with uberdata.....is that possible??</TD></TR></TABLE>


I thought of getting one of these, however I dont want to wait for overseas shipment and US Customs inspections! Also I wouldn't run that WBO2 sensor all the time, in my research I found out that the O2 sensors only good for some many hours of use and then it becomes inaccurate and will give you false readings, leading to frequent replacement of this sensor! Eventhough you can get them for $40, do you really want to replace it every few monthes?

 

search my name , i have a couple screenshots of the software up and available to view

 

Thanx

 

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Have you had any problem with the sensor burning out? I've read you can either get the Innovate with a Bosch or an NTK, but the info on their website is somewhat limited...For instance I did not know it had a narrowband output, this makes it very appealing..........Any other info you can offer from 1st hand experience Tbone?