what is the diffrence between 6061 and 6063 aluminum????

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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like topic says, thanks guys
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:22 PM
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Aluminum 6061-O


Subcategory: 6000 Series Aluminum Alloy; Aluminum Alloy; Metal; Nonferrous Metal

Close Analogs:

Composition Notes:
Aluminum content reported is calculated as remainder.
Composition information provided by the Aluminum Association and is not for design.

Key Words: al6061, UNS A96061; ISO AlMg1SiCu; Aluminium 6061-O, AD-33 (Russia); AA6061-O

Component Wt. %


Al 95.8 - 98.6
Cr 0.04 - 0.35
Cu 0.15 - 0.4
Fe Max 0.7
Component Wt. %


Mg 0.8 - 1.2
Mn Max 0.15
Other, each Max 0.05
Other, total Max 0.15
Component Wt. %


Si 0.4 - 0.8
Ti Max 0.15
Zn Max 0.25


Material Notes:
Aluminum composition calculated as remainder. Information provided by Alcoa and the references. General 6061 characteristics and uses: Excellent joining characteristics, good acceptance of applied coatings. Combines relatively high strength, good workability, and high resistance to corrosion; widely available. The T8 and T9 tempers offer better chipping characteristics over the T6 temper.

Uses: Aircraft fittings, camera lens mounts, couplings, marines fittings and hardware, electrical fittings and connectors, decorative or misc. hardware, hinge pins, magneto parts, brake pistons, hydraulic pistons, appliance fittings, valves and valve parts.

Data points with the AA note have been provided by the Aluminum Association, Inc. and are NOT FOR DESIGN.

Physical Properties Metric English Comments


Density 2.7 g/cc 0.0975 lb/in³ AA; Typical

Mechanical Properties


Hardness, Brinell 30 30 AA; Typical; 500 g load; 10 mm ball
Ultimate Tensile Strength 124 MPa 18000 psi AA; Typical
Tensile Yield Strength 55.2 MPa 8000 psi AA; Typical
Elongation at Break 25 % 25 % AA; Typical; 1/16 in. (1.6 mm) Thickness
Elongation at Break 30 % 30 % AA; Typical; 1/2 in. (12.7 mm) Diameter
Modulus of Elasticity 68.9 GPa 10000 ksi AA; Typical; Average of tension and compression. Compression modulus is about 2% greater than tensile modulus.
Ultimate Bearing Strength 228 MPa 33100 psi Edge distance/pin diameter = 2.0
Bearing Yield Strength 103 MPa 14900 psi Edge distance/pin diameter = 2.0
Poisson's Ratio 0.33 0.33 Estimated from trends in similar Al alloys.
Fatigue Strength 62.1 MPa 9000 psi AA; 500,000,000 cycles completely reversed stress; RR Moore machine/specimen
Machinability 30 % 30 % 0-100 Scale of Aluminum Alloys
Shear Modulus 26 GPa 3770 ksi Estimated from similar Al alloys.
Shear Strength 82.7 MPa 12000 psi AA; Typical

Electrical Properties


Electrical Resistivity 3.66e-006 ohm-cm 3.66e-006 ohm-cm AA; Typical at 68°F

Thermal Properties


CTE, linear 68°F 23.6 µm/m-°C 13.1 µin/in-°F AA; Typical; Average over 68-212°F range.
CTE, linear 250°C 25.2 µm/m-°C 14 µin/in-°F Estimated from trends in similar Al alloys. 20-300°C.
Heat Capacity 0.896 J/g-°C 0.214 BTU/lb-°F
Thermal Conductivity 180 W/m-K 1250 BTU-in/hr-ft²-°F AA; Typical at 77°F
Melting Point 582 - 652 °C 1080 - 1205 °F AA; Typical range based on typical composition for wrought products 1/4 inch thickness or greater; Eutectic melting can be completely eliminated by homogenization.
Solidus 582 °C 1080 °F AA; Typical
Liquidus 652 °C 1205 °F AA; Typical

Processing Properties


Solution Temperature 529 °C 985 °F
Aging Temperature 160 °C 320 °F Rolled or drawn products; hold at temperature for 18 hr
Aging Temperature 177 °C 350 °F Extrusions or forgings; hold at temperature


Aluminum 6063-O


Subcategory: 6000 Series Aluminum Alloy; Aluminum Alloy; Metal; Nonferrous Metal

Close Analogs:

Composition Notes:
Aluminum content reported is calculated as remainder.
Composition information provided by the Aluminum Association and is not for design.

Key Words: UNS A96063; ISO AlMg0.5Si; Aluminium 6063-O; AA6063-O

Component Wt. %


Al Max 97.5
Cr Max 0.1
Cu Max 0.1
Fe Max 0.35
Component Wt. %


Mg 0.45 - 0.9
Mn Max 0.1
Other, each Max 0.05
Other, total Max 0.15
Component Wt. %


Si 0.2 - 0.6
Ti Max 0.1
Zn Max 0.1


Material Notes:
Data points with the AA note have been provided by the Aluminum Association, Inc. and are NOT FOR DESIGN.

Physical Properties Metric English Comments


Density 2.7 g/cc 0.0975 lb/in³ AA; Typical

Mechanical Properties


Hardness, Brinell 25 25 AA; Typical; 500 g load; 10 mm ball
Ultimate Tensile Strength 89.6 MPa 13000 psi AA; Typical
Tensile Yield Strength 48.3 MPa 7000 psi AA; Typical
Modulus of Elasticity 68.9 GPa 10000 ksi AA; Typical; Average of tension and compression. Compression modulus is about 2% greater than tensile modulus.
Poisson's Ratio 0.33 0.33
Fatigue Strength 55.2 MPa 8000 psi AA; 500,000,000 cycles completely reversed stress; RR Moore machine/specimen
Machinability 30 % 30 % 0-100 Scale of Aluminum Alloys
Shear Modulus 25.8 GPa 3740 ksi
Shear Strength 68.9 MPa 10000 psi AA; Typical

Electrical Properties


Electrical Resistivity 2.99e-006 ohm-cm 2.99e-006 ohm-cm AA; Typical at 68°F

Thermal Properties


CTE, linear 68°F 23.4 µm/m-°C 13 µin/in-°F AA; Typical; Average over 68-212°F range.
CTE, linear 250°C 25.6 µm/m-°C 14.2 µin/in-°F Average over the range 20-300ºC
Heat Capacity 0.9 J/g-°C 0.215 BTU/lb-°F
Thermal Conductivity 218 W/m-K 1510 BTU-in/hr-ft²-°F AA; Typical at 77°F
Melting Point 616 - 654 °C 1140 - 1210 °F AA; Typical range based on typical composition for wrought products 1/4 inch thickness or greater
Solidus 616 °C 1140 °F AA; Typical
Liquidus 654 °C 1210 °F AA; Typical

Processing Properties


Annealing Temperature 413 °C 775 °F hold at temperature for 2 to 3 hr; cool at 50 °F per hour from 775 to 500 °F
Solution Temperature 521 °C 970 °F
Aging Temperature 177 °C 350 °F hold at temperature for 8 hr


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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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i see the most difference between the strength and density of these two aluminum alloys, 6061 appears to be stronger.

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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can you weld 6063 ? cus i was told there is some aluminum that isnt weldable is this true?
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 12:57 AM
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Heres what principal metals says about the two different forms of aluminum...

6061

The alloy has very good welding characteristics and may be welded by all of the common welding techniques. Gas tungsten arc welding is generally used for thin sections (less than 0.032") and gas metal arc welding is used for heavier sections. Use alloy 4043 filler wire for best results, although a decrease in T 6 properties will result.

6063

The alloy is readily welded by all of the conventional methods. Filler rod should be of the same alloy or AL 4043 alloy.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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And yes some forms of aluminum dont weld to good such a 7475 and 2011.

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 04:53 AM
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6063 is primarily for extrusions
6061 is your sheet, plate,etc.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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ok , so that makes sense cus i was looking at some u-bends and they are made from the 6063, one more thing can you weld the diffrent ones together like say 6061 and 6063 ? and thanks guys for the help
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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sorry to throw a wrench into the works, but this comes from my cycling backround. i am pretty sure most 6000 and 7000 series aluminums need to be heat treated. don't know if it would really matter in this case, as i don't know the application, but if you weld aluminum that should be heat treated and then isn't, it has only about 40% of its original strength. The heat treating process brings it back into the 90%s.

let me know if anyone knows anything different.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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In general terms 40,50 and 60 series aluminum are structurally weldable. 2024 has copper and 7075 has zinc you can weld these also but they will not be structurally strong.

I would not buy o cond metal unless you need to form an intricate part.

You would not nessarily reheat treat a part fabricated fron 6061-t-6 , depending on strength or application. You would need a temperature controlled oven that would go 900 + degrees to heattreat and most people don't have access to such an oven.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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No the 6000 series do not need to be heat treated, however they need to be preheated for best welding results.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by harryzx12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In general terms 40,50 and 60 series aluminum are structurally weldable. 2024 has copper and 7075 has zinc you can weld these also but they will not be structurally strong.

I would not buy o cond metal unless you need to form an intricate part.

You would not nessarily reheat treat a part fabricated fron 6061-t-6 , depending on strength or application. You would need a temperature controlled oven that would go 900 + degrees to heattreat and most people don't have access to such an oven.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, i know they heat treat bicycle frames. You can always ship your peice out to be heat treated if necessary. then again i am talking about weight weenies here with bikes, something that weights around 15lbs. Most of the expensive aluminum frames weight about 2.2lbs for the average rider, and are super stiff. They are extracting everything out of the metal, probably not needed here.
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