I'm thinking about buying a 92-95 Civic to do a B18c5 (1.8 Type-R) swap, I was originaly going to just buy one of the lower spec Civics to keep the weight down but I was thinking - I want the car to handle really well as well as have good straight line speed/acceleration. I'd more than likely be doing a track day or two with it so it needs to handle well. I was thinking that maybe the chassis and other parts of the suspension (not including dampers and springs as they will be replaced with after market items) may be less capable on the lower spec Civics? I mean, do the lower spec civics have decent front and rear anti roll bars etc? Could I just use the Integra running gear front and back?
Any feed back on this subject welcome.
Thanks

 

i believe ex and si have sway bars but those cars are heavy cause all the power opt(sunroof,windows,ac,power steering) if you get a lower model cx,vx,dx or any model ex,si all integra suspension from late 94-00 will fit.

 

The lesser models of the civic dont come with anti-roll bars. The suspension is all the same basically. Shares the same chassis with the DC2 Integra. To do it correctly you will have to change your LCA's with ones from an Integra with swaybar holes. ITR LCA's and suspension will fit also, but the shocks are different in the rear.

 

Some EX came with 4 wheel disc brakes. That helps. The more options on the car you get, the heavier it will be. You kind of have to jump around wether you want luxury and options or just leightweight.
Keep in mind swapping in disc brakes and sway bars is cheaper then throwing in a sunroof, power windows, power locks, a/c, power steering, etc.....don't forget the d16z6.

-Lor

 

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those lucky bastards!!

 

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some 92-93 civic si/exs don't have abs, i think it was optional i believe (correct me if im wrong)

i have a 93 si hb and no abs hehehe

also mine didn't come with a rear sway bar (optional part as well)

but mine did come w/ a front sway hehe

no power windows though (stupid honda forgot to put them in the hbs) kinda wierd cuz i have a power sunroof/mirrors but no power windows =T

 

Thanks for all the replys
So could someone run down what I would need from an Integra (front and rear) to make a low model Civic have the same/similar suspension and chassis setup to and Integra.
Cheers

 

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just take everything off of an integra the whole suspension upper arms to lower arms and you'll be set just be careful remove all brake lines intact and don't forget the e-brake cables. and if you already have access to this much parts don't forget the brake booster, master cylinder and proportioning valve.

 

I thought I read somewhere that the rear dampers were different from integra to civic?
Would it be better to take these parts from a type-R integra or are the other high end integras the same/similar?
Cheers

 

And, if I want to buy some after market dampers and springs/coils - would I need to buy them for a Civic or an Integra?

 

The ITR suspension is beefier. And you would need to buy suspension for an Integra. You can just buy coilovers (or shocks/springs) and ask for the ITR ones, I believe...

 

Cheers, but what about the back dampers being different? or is that false information? plus, I wasn't going to go as far as to buy coilovers, I was thinking more Koni adjustables. If I bought a set of Koni adjustables for an ITR and put them on my Civic with the ITR running gear, would the Civic sit correctly?
Oh, and if anyone has any pictures of a Civic on full ITR running gear with or without after market dampers/springs I'd love to see them.
Thanks

 

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Another thing is that here in the UK the roads are ridiculously *****! The ideal set up to make a car handle well on the english roads is to have the damping set quite low (harder than stock but not very high at all - like a rally car) so if possible it might be worth just using the stock ITR dampers with some uprated coils/springs (eibach maybe). This would also leave more money for a few other things
Would this be possible? If I could find a ITR in a scrap yard somewhere and just use all the running gear and dampers with a 92-95 Civic? One more thing to note is that all UK ITR's are 97+ but these parts would still fit right?

 

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Nathan, if your interested i have an B18C-R engined civic and am uk based, might be able to help with info

For the uk you are best using and Esi EG5 or if possible Vti EG6 as its even less work, however both are slightly heavier. Depends if you want the extra work or willing to spend the extra cash up front. EG's with ABS have bigger 262mm discs, so a better starting place.

For the suspension ITR spec anti roll bars with softer springs/dampers will work better on our roads, ideally adjustable coilovers if your intending to do trackdays etc, if not a koni yellow/eibach setup will work well too. the JDM and ITR rear lower arms are different and require differnt rear dampers (eye rather than fork type found on UK EG's). I have standard EG anti roll bars (19/14mm) and stiff adjustable spring/dampers which work on track, but are a little rough on normal roads

For the ITR suspension upgrade from a low spec model you need front and rear lower control arms, hubs/knuckles if they are 240mm discs (if you use UK ITR ones new 5 stud rims), anti roll bars and drop links, strut braces, upgraded bushes

the main advantage of using a lower spec model is the light initial weight, but all of the above adds up to pretty much and EG6. I statrted with a JDM VTi which is pretty damn light, even with A/C, PAS and elctrics as standard, as it has less sound deadening etc, and especially no sunroof, wich is a useless high weight

should get you started im me for more info or ask on here, http://forum.hondarevolutions.com/index.php im eddyesi there are a few others, Redsun on here and our forum has the swap too and a few others with B18 swaps

 

Perfect mate!!!
I can't send messages on here as yet becuase I'm new (it won't allow me).
Hm, and my e-mails knackered at the minute also...
I'll try get you on Honda Rev - I'll sing up now
Cheers mate!

 

Sorted on the Honda rev forum Eddy, - left you a message in the Honda Chat section