It's too bad those profiting off of content provided to their site for free don't appreciate the service.

 

Nice #'s!

Nice project! Wonder what it would do with some cams!

 

good shi*! nice #'s..

 

I have to admit. It sure is nice to see something different that isn't your typical, boring, weak-sauce SOHC buildup (which seems to be what the word 'different' equates to in the world of Honda).

 

thats some serious TQ.... btw is we-todd acting weird for anyone else, the first time i veiwed this thread there was a big *** pic of a bunch of people drinking and some all terain vehicle, i refreshed and there were dynos lol... same thing happened in other threds too

 

For creativity and a gang load of torque.

 

eh, that tq curve isnt all that great.

How high do you usually rev that thing?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> All-motor forum does not seem to care for F and NonVTEC H-series stuff. Oh well, at least it is fun to drive.

Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>i love to see build up's like these.. i am a big fan of the non vtec H series as well.. and 171 is a lot of tq for a all motor car.. Pirate, have you took this beast to any drag strips yet? for something different...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Usually 6500 or less. 170ft lbs is pretty damn good for all motor IMO. Might I ask what torque you make? Would you post a graph please? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, the peak tq is great no doubt. I just thought it would be a "different shape" on the graph. Kinda peaky and falls off quick.

 

does that thang got a hemi

NIIICE torque number dude

 

I might have missed it but what I are you using for tuning?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 743power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">eh, that tq curve isnt all that great.

How high do you usually rev that thing?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you talking about! Yes, that curve is not the most flat in the world. But take a look at the numbers it is making. That motor is producing ~140ft-lb torque to the wheels at only 3000RPM. How many other four cylinder Honda motors do this? In fact, many 2.0 liter B-series motors don't produce this much torque at their torque peak! Also, how many four cylinder Honda motors produce 183WHP with a rev limit below 7000RPM?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What are you talking about! Yes, that curve is not the most flat in the world. But take a look at the numbers it is making. That motor is producing ~140ft-lb torque to the wheels at only 3000RPM. How many other four cylinder Honda motors do this? In fact, many 2.0 liter B-series motors don't produce this much torque at their torque peak! Also, how many four cylinder Honda motors produce 183WHP with a rev limit below 7000RPM?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not many, It would pull like a train in a light hatch.

 

sorry for my noobish question, but what is a h23/f23 hybrid? dohc with sohc? what does that consist of?

edit**
oops srorry. i see your link. i see its h23 head with the f23 block. but my question is, why did you do the f series block compared to the h23 block?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gldndrgn14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but my question is, why did you do the f series block compared to the h23 block? </TD></TR></TABLE>

My guess is because the F23 block has a 97mm stroke vs the 95mm stroke for the H23. This would make for slightly more displacement.

 

What tranny are you running?

Torque Monster

 

[QUOTE=PirateMcFred]Usually 6500 or less. 170ft lbs is pretty damn good for all motor IMO. Might I ask what torque you make? Would you post a graph please? My engine also has some bottlenecks. The head and manifold are not ported. It has smaller valves than the H22 with a larger displacement that sucks for breathing. No one makes a good header so I am stuck with the POS DC unless I want to go custom. The exhaust was free so it is cludged together and is only 2.25". And the thing is running a conservative ignition map and the A/F is only around 12.8. So it is really not that bad IMO. There is certianly room to grow. Some adj. cam gears would help too I bet.

ENOUGH SAID! these #'s same as my h22a coup (184whp/156 torq) h22 has i/h/e/tb/cg, and fine tuned by aebs. and my **** peaked at 7.5k rpm for hp! way to go dude!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am running an M2S4 Prelude Si transmission. I have a 4th gen VTEC M2F4 with Quaife that I will install later when I need a new clutch. I need to look into swapping out the 5th gear from the Si transmission into the M2F4 so that I will only be spinning about 3900 at 80mph.

Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sleeper 5th gear

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

"Mileage" 5th gear. And "engine longevity" 5th gear. I don't need to be at peak torque on the highway, that is what the other 4 gears are for.

Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>

Engine Longevity? What's that?????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't need to be at peak torque on the highway, that is what the other 4 gears are for. Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>

After all, even if you're not at peak torque, you are still FAR ahead of just about ANY Honda in terms of torque on the highway.

 

Pirate, have a couple questions for you. Glad to hear this build has lasted some good mileage, proves you did a good job.

1) What is your idle RPM on Crower Cams?

2) How did you specifically achieve this idle RPM through engine management, etc?

3) What is the max RPM this motor experiences?

4) What have you done to ensure enough lubrication to your motor on this build?

Thanks.

 

Dude, u brought up a thread that is 3 years old.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude, u brought up a thread that is 3 years old.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you dont have anything to contribute then dont post.

thanks

 

damn that thing is still running?! since 97mm strokes seem to be taking a beating, i wonder how my 87X95 would do Sorry to be an ***!

 

I heard you got the Euro-R manifold on the H23 head... care to elaborate????

Also did you do away with IABs? I remember reading in your other thread that it doesn't really kill low end. But does it help at all on top?