poor mans type r
Short version:
should i get a complete 2000 civic si b16a2 swap and sell the block and then buy a gsr block and bolt it up to the b16 tranny and head and call it a day??????will this work????
Long Version:
hey i know i shouldnt get a 1.6 liter, i always wanted a gsr, but i can get a good deal on a 2000 b16 swap and i was wondering if in order to bild a poor mans type r if all i need to buy is the gsr block????
does everything in the gsr block bolt right up to the b16 tranny and b16 head and what not????
if i do this gsr block, with pr3 b16a2 head then what timing belt should i buy shouldnt it be for the block???
finally is this even a good idea does this setup pull harder then a gsr??? or should i pass up this GREAT deal and just save up for a gsr swap
should i get a complete 2000 civic si b16a2 swap and sell the block and then buy a gsr block and bolt it up to the b16 tranny and head and call it a day??????will this work????
Long Version:
hey i know i shouldnt get a 1.6 liter, i always wanted a gsr, but i can get a good deal on a 2000 b16 swap and i was wondering if in order to bild a poor mans type r if all i need to buy is the gsr block????
does everything in the gsr block bolt right up to the b16 tranny and b16 head and what not????
if i do this gsr block, with pr3 b16a2 head then what timing belt should i buy shouldnt it be for the block???
finally is this even a good idea does this setup pull harder then a gsr??? or should i pass up this GREAT deal and just save up for a gsr swap
sorry guys i have searched so i apoligize for the misunderstanding, i am not asking whether or not it works or if its possible
i am asking if i should or should not do this
yes i can make up my own mind but this will be my first swap and well i would rather listen to some of your experiances
i am asking if i should or should not do this
yes i can make up my own mind but this will be my first swap and well i would rather listen to some of your experiances
thats not too bad. Honestly, it sounds like alot of work for someone who is inexperienced.
personally, I would buy the si swap and put it in, and go from there
however, it will all bolt right up.
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Why not?
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I think it will. the b16/b18 hybrid seems to work well, and teh shorter gears of the si tranny will do you good.
personally, I would buy the si swap and put it in, and go from there
however, it will all bolt right up.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bboylito »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey i know i shouldnt get a 1.6 liter,</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why not?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bboylito »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">finally is this even a good idea does this setup pull harder then a gsr??</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think it will. the b16/b18 hybrid seems to work well, and teh shorter gears of the si tranny will do you good.
well i am not just going to buy a gsr block and thats it i will sell my b16a2 block and add whatever the difference is my only fear is that i wont be able to find a gsr block in good condition that hasn't been beaten
if i just swap the b16 then i will go turbo, but if i swap the gsr block i will go NA
i'd rather go Na for reliability issues but with the b16 its worth going turbo so that i can get some kind of power out of the biatch
if i just swap the b16 then i will go turbo, but if i swap the gsr block i will go NA
i'd rather go Na for reliability issues but with the b16 its worth going turbo so that i can get some kind of power out of the biatch
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bboylito »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before vtec crossover a b16 is the same as my d16
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Before the end of 3rd gear I have 1-2 cars on my friends' b16's in my d16...
edit: not trying to start a b-series -vs- d-series war
</TD></TR></TABLE>Before the end of 3rd gear I have 1-2 cars on my friends' b16's in my d16...
edit: not trying to start a b-series -vs- d-series war
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bboylito »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before vtec crossover a b16 is the same as my d16
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....keep your d16 and turbo it you'll make more power than that poor man's type r.
</TD></TR></TABLE>....keep your d16 and turbo it you'll make more power than that poor man's type r.
I basically just did that, not because I wanted to but because I had to lol.
Originally I had a SirII B16 Swap with LSD trans, but i crashed the car and needed a new transmission so i got a JDM ITR trans. (4.40 not 4.785, i know i know..) and put that into my new civic. Then I spun a bearing. (ALWAYS CHECK YOUR OIL!!) so I picked up a B18C5 shortblock, some ITR cams, Intake Manifold and Throttlebody, so now, I have basically a Type R, without the headwork.
Originally I had a SirII B16 Swap with LSD trans, but i crashed the car and needed a new transmission so i got a JDM ITR trans. (4.40 not 4.785, i know i know..) and put that into my new civic. Then I spun a bearing. (ALWAYS CHECK YOUR OIL!!) so I picked up a B18C5 shortblock, some ITR cams, Intake Manifold and Throttlebody, so now, I have basically a Type R, without the headwork.
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